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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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I agree with the statement of letting the fools run up the price on teh C2's. It almost seems like the way things are going my 79 will be worth 50K some day not so far away, (hey, I can dream can't I?)
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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America is the greatest country in the world!
We're able to take in every bit of information on a subject, combine it with what we see ourselves, and form our own opinions.
I watched so much of the auction this year, my wife was about to leave me! I did see some of the things mentioned here, like cars being moved off stage while bidding was still taking place. While that doesn't make much sense to me either, I know what I saw. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the outcome is. Either way, the BJ auction has become what it is; another outlet for selling collector cars. Somewhat higher profile than Ebay, persay, but still another outlet.
I'm going to wait and see what happens. Quite interesting though to see this kind of lobbying taking place here in the forum....
They move the cars off the block, because of timing. It's just like the Oscars you only get a couple of minutes to speak. Most auctions you pay more for certain days and range of hours. I guess they move the cars off to give the bidders a sign that its going to end soon.

Also their posting this story on all forums, not just here. Someone has an agenda.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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collusion in an Auction environment.......now thats unheard of.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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When internal combustion of fossil fuels is banned, there will be more museum quality cars than museums and the values will plumet (only one way values could fall). Enjoy them while you can. /:\
Not in this lifetime!
Our economy is based on the oil market. Perhaps if Al Gore had his way, maybe. Otherwise, this statement is purely environmentalist wacko conjecture based near the hope that Hillary Clinton becomes President.
I don't buy it, even if it is just a theory.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Budman78
They move the cars off the block, because of timing. It's just like the Oscars you only get a couple of minutes to speak. Most auctions you pay more for certain days and range of hours. I guess they move the cars off to give the bidders a sign that its going to end soon.

Also their posting this story on all forums, not just here. Someone has an agenda.
My observation on timing depended on how high the initial bid was...

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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by C3 4ME
I agree with the statement of letting the fools run up the price on teh C2's. It almost seems like the way things are going my 79 will be worth 50K some day not so far away, (hey, I can dream can't I?)
I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YA
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by schmegeggie
Not in this lifetime!
Our economy is based on the oil market. Perhaps if Al Gore had his way, maybe. Otherwise, this statement is purely environmentalist wacko conjecture based near the hope that Hillary Clinton becomes President.
I don't buy it, even if it is just a theory.
Lets hope you don't check out soon, but the car of twenty years from now will be quite different than what you drive today. For the first time since the age of the Stanley Steamer, cars are avalible for sale that are not purely internal combustion. The water in clean air out engine has existed in theory since WWII. With todays computers, it is now possible. So why can't you buy one today? Easy, the oil companies can't charge $6 a gallon for water....yet.

But private control for the water supply is ongoing. Ever hear of United Water? American Water? Behind the patriotic names are global multi-nationals (just like oil companies, surprise!). I'm no fan of Hillary or an enviromentalist, but to not see it coming is to be ignorant of ones suroundings.

BTW, there are plenty of other ways the bubble can burst on the current collector car market (trying to stay on topic here).
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I have no doubt BJ are crooks.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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Lets hope you don't check out soon, but the car of twenty years from now will be quite different than what you drive today. For the first time since the age of the Stanley Steamer, cars are avalible for sale that are not purely internal combustion. The water in clean air out engine has existed in theory since WWII. With todays computers, it is now possible. So why can't you buy one today? Easy, the oil companies can't charge $6 a gallon for water....yet.

But private control for the water supply is ongoing. Ever hear of United Water? American Water? Behind the patriotic names are global multi-nationals (just like oil companies, surprise!). I'm no fan of Hillary or an enviromentalist, but to not see it coming is to be ignorant of ones suroundings.

BTW, there are plenty of other ways the bubble can burst on the current collector car market (trying to stay on topic here).
O.K. No problem.
First, I understand the cars made 20 years from now will be very different. Go back 20 and compare to what we now have. AC is pretty much standard now, all the temp controls, etc. Better ride, better technology. The reason the "green" cars aren't taking off is that no one wants them, there's a minute(mi-noot) market. The people buying the Honda and Toyota hybrid's are paying too much for them just to feel better about themselves thinking they're helping planet earth. When in reality, they're paying too much for something that still needs gas to run.
Yes, I agree(back on topic) that the collector car market could burst. However, just as I bought my 69 Coupe mostly because I LOVED the look of those cars as a child, and always had a hankerin' for one. There are lots of kids out there now seeing what we're doing with these classic cars. Someday, if thier Daddy or Grandpa taught them, they'll have a hankerin' for a classic car. It's not going to be some Honda Civic, or Toyota Celica. It'll be a Camaro, Corvette, or Hemi Cuda. Yes, gas might be $8.00/gallon then, and our Vette's might be selling over $100k, but that's what might be. Pure speculation. No different than real estate to me, it only appreciates over time.
Lastly, glad to hear you're not a fan of Hillary.
Sorry about the , I hate politics mostly, and am more of a realist. I just don't see market developing for hybrid vehicles. As gas prices rose last year, there were just as many people at the station as ever. Yes, the oil companies got richer at our expense, but that's what business is all about...supply and demand. If you've got the supply....then you da' man!

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Sweep away all the flashy auction glitter and you'll find a bunch of used car salesman.
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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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It makes me wonder why people like you have to degrade and challenge new people . The guy has a C6 and did fill out his profile. Maybe someone doesn't need an agenda to post their first time. Or do they need to be a redneck grease monkey asking a question on how to roll up a window. No agenda then!

Maybe he was just passing on some info and didn't know that all you "guys in the know" already heard about it. I hadn't heard anything about itbut it does not surprise me. I do believe that BJ auctions are fixed and they do pump up the prices. After all, the more they pump the more money they make. Just look at the commission scale. 10% fromm one side and 8% from the other. What a ripoff!! And if any of you really believe nay of those prices then I have a bridge to sell you!
"red neck grease monkey"??? "in the know"?? NOT ME. You, on the other hand, seem to have some issues. BTW....... it's the button....you know, for the windows....push the button!! I have no idea about BJ. This " journalist" has this stuff posted everywhere. Now that you have read his rumor you are free to repost it as the truth because "you saw it on the Internet". Personally I hope BJ runs car prices up 1000%.

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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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2000% You know what that would make a '76 worth?
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Sweep away all the flashy auction glitter and you'll find a bunch of used car salesman.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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If i wanted to read or hear that bad bj blog Id watch the NEWS,This Forum is for fixing and helping fix Corvettes not bjs stuff. leave it to the press.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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For Corvette collectors,info on BJ is no different than threads here about E-Bay....or certain Corvette dealers,for that matter...

BUYER BEWARE>>>

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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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If i wanted to read or hear that bad bj blog Id watch the NEWS,This Forum is for fixing and helping fix Corvettes not bjs stuff. leave it to the press.
This is the C3 General forum, we talk about anything remotely C3 related here. If the mods don't like it, it will end up in OT somewhere.

If you only want to talk about fixing Corvettes, stick to C3 Tech/Performance.
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For those that dont know why BJ or any other auction would drop the hammer early on something or selling it short..this is how its done.
You are one of my best buyers ...you bid all the time ...I want you back . I drop the hammer fast on three cars...you save 20,000 30,ooo.
This is hard to spot..they might have bidders around the room.
You then run the bid on two or three or four cars for me ...I get every cent back + + .We both are happy, the bidder comes back....
I have seen this at alot of auctions...even one I worked the floor at....
Pros make a living off reading the other bidders....
Many are there spending money for someone else...and are going to get paid for it.
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Lets hope you don't check out soon, but the car of twenty years from now will be quite different than what you drive today. For the first time since the age of the Stanley Steamer, cars are avalible for sale that are not purely internal combustion. The water in clean air out engine has existed in theory since WWII. With todays computers, it is now possible. So why can't you buy one today? Easy, the oil companies can't charge $6 a gallon for water....yet.
I would like to hear more information about this water powered, zero emissions engine made possible by computer technology.

Also, (to stay on topic), I go to BJ every year. I can barely afford the price of admission much less bid on a car but, the fact is, where can you see 1000 very cool cars in one place? I go to it because it's a great car show, I don't really care what rich people do with their money.
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I imagine most auctions have a certain amount of false bidding. Nobody HAS TO bid or buy a car. If 100000$ is bid that means the bidder has that amount to spend on a car & He wants this one which is being offered for 100k. Nobody has a gun to his head. The 8% & 10% are not a ripoff. These fees are not concealed, that would be a ripoff.
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