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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Really cool

Using this tip, I'll throw my chassis in my neighbors swimming pool with the Arm & Hammer soap and my battery charger (Using HIS power of course) when he's not looking and get ALL the rust off... Actually, that might work for some of the small stuff I need to de-rust.

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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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That very same deal was discussed here a short while back, consensus of opinion was that it worked and rather well too,,,Peace,,,Moosie
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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It's a cool technique, and I like the swimming pool idea but you'd need to hook up a running car to it to get enough amps.
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I would like to see what happens if a thin rusty body panel were treated like this. Would it eat through the panel too even where it's not rusty. I know you can't leave it in too long...but will the rust come off before the metal breaks down?
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Have any of you used the Molasses soak to remove rust and crude? It's much slower but very effective on getting everything out of water jackets, etc. You mix 1 part molasses to five parts hot water, hot water helps melt the molasses. An engine block needs to soak for about six months but when you pull it out and pressure wash it all the rust and crude in the water jackets is gone. Smaller parts clean up in a shorter period of time. Almost forgot, you have to clean away the grease and oil before setting the parts in the molasses. The good thing about this after you're all done you can just dump the molasses and water mixture in your garden.
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I would like to see what happens if a thin rusty body panel were treated like this. Would it eat through the panel too even where it's not rusty. I know you can't leave it in too long...but will the rust come off before the metal breaks down?
The whole point is that it's not supposed to eat the metal.
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The whole point is that it's not supposed to eat the metal.

Oh but it will. If you leave a part in longer than you supposed to the part will start to erode away and you'll have no more part.
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Originally Posted by Wally 194
Have any of you used the Molasses soak to remove rust and crude? It's much slower but very effective on getting everything out of water jackets, etc. You mix 1 part molasses to five parts hot water, hot water helps melt the molasses. An engine block needs to soak for about six months but when you pull it out and pressure wash it all the rust and crude in the water jackets is gone. Smaller parts clean up in a shorter period of time. Almost forgot, you have to clean away the grease and oil before setting the parts in the molasses. The good thing about this after you're all done you can just dump the molasses and water mixture in your garden.
Or you can just use 50/50 muriatic acid/water. Does the same thing in 5 minutes. Engine castings can handle strong acids. Just replace all jacket plugs etc with brass after neutralizing and do the engine alone.
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Or you can just use 50/50 muriatic acid/water. Does the same thing in 5 minutes. Engine castings can handle strong acids. Just replace all jacket plugs etc with brass after neutralizing and do the engine alone.

Isn't that what machine shops do when they dip and clean them?
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Oh but it will. If you leave a part in longer than you supposed to the part will start to erode away and you'll have no more part.
Not according to the link.
http://www3.telus.net/public/aschoep...lyticrust.html
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Isn't that what machine shops do when they dip and clean them?
Many many moons ago they used a hot caustic soda solution, but the EPA doesn't like that any more.

I just use the muriatic for the water jackets if the engine is out of the car. Let it sit on the flywheel, tape the rad hoses togehter and fill. Wait about 10 minutes and drain and neutralize with baking soda. Then knock out all freeze plugs and flush out plug debris.
Will end up like day 1 clean.
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77/350 - I am curious about the battery charger. I think mine has (3) settings lo-Med High charge rate and then it shuts itself off after the charge level has been made. I think that because this 5 gal bucket contains so much liquid by volume that it would never see the charge level and run forever or to distruction. Anybody have any ideas?
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Originally Posted by noonie
Or you can just use 50/50 muriatic acid/water. Does the same thing in 5 minutes. Engine castings can handle strong acids. Just replace all jacket plugs etc with brass after neutralizing and do the engine alone.
Noonie, the reason I use molasses is it can be easily disposed of where muriatic acid is not. Sure it takes time but when I'm done I just dump it in the garden or in the field. On smaller parts it only takes a couple weeks.

I've used the battery charger/washing soda cleaning method but I like the results of the molasses better. If you use the battery charger, attach copper wire to the part and submerse the part keeping the copper wire to attach the aligator clip. If you attach the aligator clip submersed in the solution eventually the aligator clip will get eaten away.

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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
It's a cool technique, and I like the swimming pool idea but you'd need to hook up a running car to it to get enough amps.
Just make sure the neighbors are on a looong vacation huh,,,Peace,,, Moosie
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Originally Posted by Wally 194
Noonie, the reason I use molasses is it can be easily disposed of where muriatic acid is not. Sure it takes time but when I'm done I just dump it in the garden or in the field. On smaller parts it only takes a couple weeks.

I've used the battery charger/washing soda cleaning method but I like the results of the molasses better. If you use the battery charger, attach copper wire to the part and submerse the part keeping the copper wire to attach the aligator clip. If you attach the aligator clip submersed in the solution eventually the aligator clip will get eaten away.

Wally
I very seldom use it and dump it into my septic drain field. Helps it out a lot too.
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Loctite makes a great product called EXTEND. It's made to stop rust from advancing. Remove loose rust and apply directly on to the rusted surface. Let dry, paint if needed. Stuff works great. I used it on my mother-in-laws dump cart, great results.
Anyone used it on a Vette?
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I haven't...but I don't really have any rust to speak of.
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