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Summit and Jegs carry engine fastener kits in polished stainless. Bowties on the bolt heads cost more. But once you start mixing and matching parts as much as the vast majority do here, your better off with Mcmaster Carr or having your rusty pieces rechromed. Home Depot or Lowes cheap stuff is good for trial fittings, but for final assembly, you want the correct grade, and a nice finish.
[QUOTE=73, Dark Blue 454;1558869298]Wow,..this is a lousy thread, but wanted to point out, that stainless hardware is not even as strong as grade 5. So be careful where you use it. Body parts and trim, ok. Brake calipers, steering, and suspension, not ok.[/ thr
Most hardware store and automotive stainless bolts have a tensile strength of less than 100KSI. A grade 8 bolt is in the 180KSI range if I remember correctly. DO NOT REPLACE HIGH STRENGTH STEEL HARWARE WITH STAINLESS! I use grade 10 in many of the high stress areas on my car.
You may just be pulling everyone's leg or maybe not. But some things are hard to tell by the written word. Be it fact or fiction the premise of your actions put forward on this forum gives your self a distrustful name on the forum and looks bad to other members of the forum as well as people that are not members as of yet but just looking around our good site. I hope you get this situation corrected.
Wow,..this is a lousy thread, but wanted to point out, that stainless hardware is not even as strong as grade 5. So be careful where you use it. Body parts and trim, ok. Brake calipers, steering, and suspension, not ok.
Originally Posted by Jim_Harrison
Most hardware store and automotive stainless bolts have a tensile strength of less than 100KSI. A grade 8 bolt is in the 180KSI range if I remember correctly. DO NOT REPLACE HIGH STRENGTH STEEL HARWARE WITH STAINLESS! I use grade 10 in many of the high stress areas on my car.
SS has a significantly lower tensile strength compared to a grade 8 bolt, if corrosion is a concern, consider using zinc-plated bolts with anti-seize on the threads.
Personal attacks on forum members are against the forum rules and subject to vacation time...calling someone a thief is such an attack. We are not judge and jury regarding another person's morals.
I kept this thread open because there is good information on SS bolts vs grade 8. If you guys continue to badger the thief card, I will move this thread to the boneyard.
Totally stainless makes a kit for early C3's .... does the whole car. As to how strong stainless is, most hardware is not real strong but with the correct heat treat stainless fasteners can be equivalent to Grade 8 (170,000 ksi). Totally stainless carries the high strength bolts. They carry both 17-4 and ones made by ARP. ARP even makes stainless steel cylinder head bolts that are stronger than stock. You can get the ARP stainless thru Jegs and Summit also.
Totally stainless makes a kit for early C3's .... does the whole car. As to how strong stainless is, most hardware is not real strong but with the correct heat treat stainless fasteners can be equivalent to Grade 8 (170,000 ksi). Totally stainless carries the high strength bolts. They carry both 17-4 and ones made by ARP. ARP even makes stainless steel cylinder head bolts that are stronger than stock. You can get the ARP stainless thru Jegs and Summit also.
I agree. There are some misleading comments or partial truths in previous posts. Totally Stainless has a pretty good selection of kits and ARP has some bolts that exceed the strength of Gr8. Some bolts/studs you'll have to buy separately at a fastener supply place. McMaster Carr is an industrial supply house that has a good selection. Best to confirm fastener spec & strength if you're replacing a Gr8 fastener with SS. Lower strength fasteners aren't as critical. Most SS fasteners are made from 300 series SS such as 302 & 304 SS. High strength can be 17-4 or 17-7 PH (precipitation hardening) but cost more. To clarify strength issue: 300 series SS is comonly believed to be low strength- this relates mainly to the yield strength which, in the annealed condition, is only about that of carbon steel. i.e. "soft" 300 series SS will deform at a relatively low stress. However 300 series SS increases strength tremendously due to work hardening during deformation. So strength depends on condition of the fastener & manufacturing process. Fasteners made from cold drawn bar/wire with rolled threads will be much stronger than those made by machining.
Sorry for rambling. Fastener strength & selection depends on quite a few factors.
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