What was Waltrip's Problem?
Racer
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Onley VA
Personally, I think NASCAR is a joke. Camry, Taurus, Monte Carlo, aren't these front wheel drive cars. What's with that? It was much better in the "old" days when the cars on the track were a much closer copy of the cars on the road. Back then, it was said that who won on Sunday sold on Monday. Now, who cares.
I have just one thing to say...doesn't the S.C. in NASCAR stand for STOCK CAR?!
Instructor
Joined: May 2005
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This trend started with Jeff Gordon in 1992 and has really ramped up in the last 6 years after the death of Dale Earnhardt.
I see Jeff Gordon is now in the hotseat(cheating?), but they will probably let him off again. if they don't we won't be able to stand the snivelling.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Paducah Ky
His team was caught cheating. It didn't need to be a long term horsepower boost. It was for his qualifying attempt. It was disappointing to see him slip the blame to an unamed individual member on his team. Everyone on the team, including him, new it was there. Some get caught, others don't. He did and Nascar made an example out of him:o
Drifting
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,951
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From: Shore NJ
We may never find out the real truth on this, makes you wonder if the whole import introduction has all of the "good ol boys" of Nascar up in arms about soiling the tradition of Nascar... some of the early drivers were involved with boot legging and "modifying" their cars, I'm sure they all had some tricks they used.....jmo
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Gladstone MO
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But on the flip side of that, I'm a bit peeved at NHRA too. When Alderman was popped several years ago, NHRA said he was done- forever. Look at him now.
Looks like the usual stuff- a nice fat checkbook can fix about anything.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,443
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From: McDonough Georgia
The sport is not what it once was.It's all about money now.It used to be about racing.I find myself losing more interest every season.
Pro
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 551
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From: Clovis CA
It Was NOT jet fuel, Pemberton said that in the press conference, but stupid un-educated reporters chose not hear it. "Cheating" as some would call it, is not really cheating, it's getting around lame *** NASCAR rules. Run what ya brung! Should be the moto and most of the old school will tell you the same. Way too many tech rules have sanitized the sport, most 1 1/2 mile tracks are boring races to watch, like CA.
I do agree with the Alderman comment, he should be banned, that was dope.
I'm not a NASCAR freak or anything, but do like a good race and support my drivers sponsors. Racing and hockey are the only good guy sports left. JMO
I do agree with the Alderman comment, he should be banned, that was dope.
I'm not a NASCAR freak or anything, but do like a good race and support my drivers sponsors. Racing and hockey are the only good guy sports left. JMO
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Dec 2006
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Unfortunately, NASCAR reached a point where the team with the most money had the advantage. Leveling the playing field has become necessary. What other sport do you know of where the opposing teams get to play by different rules?
Race Director
Joined: Apr 1999
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From: NM
Pro
Joined: Dec 2005
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Yeah yeah yeah And Fords are made in Mexico and Chevys are made in Canada. The only part of these cars that's brand specific are the decals.
Back in the day, the real race ended at the white flag. Then, miraculously, the local favorite would push through the pack to take the checkered flag. The track owners arranged this to sell tickets. It made sense and it worked. Today, NASCAR makes things so evenly matched that it's anyone's race. There's a LOT of luck involved, and it makes for a little better viewing, and better competition.
I do wish that the drivers were allowed to speak their minds, vent a little anger, throw some punches, and get a little revenge once in a while. Those generic "Oh well, there's always next week" speeches just don't satify.
Back in the day, the real race ended at the white flag. Then, miraculously, the local favorite would push through the pack to take the checkered flag. The track owners arranged this to sell tickets. It made sense and it worked. Today, NASCAR makes things so evenly matched that it's anyone's race. There's a LOT of luck involved, and it makes for a little better viewing, and better competition.
I do wish that the drivers were allowed to speak their minds, vent a little anger, throw some punches, and get a little revenge once in a while. Those generic "Oh well, there's always next week" speeches just don't satify.
Drifting
Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Cedar,BC
Monte Carlo FWD V8 built in Canada
Charger RWD V8 built in Canada
Fusion FWD V6 built in St Louis or Mexico?
Camry who cares?
The only factory production parts on any of these Nascar race cars is the trunk lid !EVERYTHING else including the engine is a fabricated race car piece built in the good ole USA by Americans(with Chinese castings and forgings of course),sad to say the Toyota race car is just as American as any of the other makes.Except for the the engine itself,all the makes are built identically,using the exact same parts as their competitors!The only thing that separates Toyota and Daimler-Chrysler from Ford and GM is the final cheque signing authority for their Nascar efforts come from overseas,not from Detroit.
However,Toyota stock cars still don't sit right with me either...
Charger RWD V8 built in Canada
Fusion FWD V6 built in St Louis or Mexico?
Camry who cares?
The only factory production parts on any of these Nascar race cars is the trunk lid !EVERYTHING else including the engine is a fabricated race car piece built in the good ole USA by Americans(with Chinese castings and forgings of course),sad to say the Toyota race car is just as American as any of the other makes.Except for the the engine itself,all the makes are built identically,using the exact same parts as their competitors!The only thing that separates Toyota and Daimler-Chrysler from Ford and GM is the final cheque signing authority for their Nascar efforts come from overseas,not from Detroit.
However,Toyota stock cars still don't sit right with me either...
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2004
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From: Aussie expat in Saudi Arabia
Instructor
Joined: Oct 2000
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From: Flemington, nj 08822 usa
Here's what I've heard was used. definitely not an innocent mistake. If Nascar was a real business and held people to contracts or Toyota had ***** this team would be gone.
Propylene oxide is a highly toxic flammable chemical compound. Its major industrial use is as the monomer used in the production of polypropylene oxide (polypropylene glycol). It was once used as a racing fuel, but that usage is now prohibited under the US NHRA rules for safety reasons. It is also used in thermobaric weapons. It is an epoxide.
Larry
Propylene oxide is a highly toxic flammable chemical compound. Its major industrial use is as the monomer used in the production of polypropylene oxide (polypropylene glycol). It was once used as a racing fuel, but that usage is now prohibited under the US NHRA rules for safety reasons. It is also used in thermobaric weapons. It is an epoxide.
Larry
Race Director
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Will Nascar start a seniors division ???
"For a while, it looked as if James Hylton, the 72-year-old hoping for a comeback at Daytona, would make the field for his first Daytona 500 since 1983. After running as high as second by staying on the track when others pitted during a caution, he got shuffled back on a late restart and faded out of contention."
"For a while, it looked as if James Hylton, the 72-year-old hoping for a comeback at Daytona, would make the field for his first Daytona 500 since 1983. After running as high as second by staying on the track when others pitted during a caution, he got shuffled back on a late restart and faded out of contention."
