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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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just picked up a 79, and there is alot of slop in the stock shifter. is there a rebuild kit? any tricks to get this thing out of the car?

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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Disconnect linkage from trans and lower crossmember. CC, Mid America, Ecklers has a rebuild kits. they are basically new shims and reverse lock out.

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I had the same problem and installed a Hurst shifter (purchased through Eckler's). It costs $120 more then a stock replacement shifter and $240 more than a linkage kit, but I'm glad I spent the extra $$ for Hurst.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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I re built the stock one, then I installed a Hurst shifter. Even after the rebuild I still could not get old one to work properly
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Disconnect linkage from trans and lower crossmember. CC, Mid America, Ecklers has a rebuild kits. they are basically new shims and reverse lock out.

i wish. i have a welded in crossmember.

don't really want to go with a hurst.



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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Just replace all spring clips/washers at linkage arms.....it will "tighten up"...just did my 78 4 speed last year...

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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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how do you get the shifter out of the car with a welded in crossmember??
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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It's not easy but I did one about 4 years ago. Don't quite remember but I think I had to remove shifter linkage arms, and then remove bolts from the shifter to the mounting plate that bolts to the crossmember.
Getting out was easier than going back in but I did it. Then it wasn't adjusted right so I had to do it over again to get it adjusted right. lol
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I thought 79 were bolted in. Sorry to here their not. You can get up there to get the three bolts out but it is going to tuff. You might try removing to the top console and then remove the rubber boot attached to the tunnel. Then remove shifter bolts from top.

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Originally Posted by Vette Crazzy
how do you get the shifter out of the car with a welded in crossmember??
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It's not easy but I did one about 4 years ago. Don't quite remember but I think I had to remove shifter linkage arms, and then remove bolts from the shifter to the mounting plate that bolts to the crossmember.
Getting out was easier than going back in but I did it. Then it wasn't adjusted right so I had to do it over again to get it adjusted right. lol
That's right. I did mine just yesterday. I did not remove the arms from the shifter though. I took the arms off the trans and let them hang there while I took out the bolts that hold the shifter to the transmission. Remove the shifter ball and reverse tab and then just pull everything down throught the boots. Pretty simple.
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That's right. I did mine just yesterday. I did not remove the arms from the shifter though. I took the arms off the trans and let them hang there while I took out the bolts that hold the shifter to the transmission. Remove the shifter ball and reverse tab and then just pull everything down throught the boots. Pretty simple.
is there 3 bolts that hold it to the trans??
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3 bolts hold the shifter plate to the trans and 2 bolts hold the shifter to the plate. At least that's how mine was set up. our later model may be different.
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Originally Posted by Vette Crazzy
how do you get the shifter out of the car with a welded in crossmember??
How do you get it out with the exhaust system on!?!?!

Seriously, I was under my car today evaluating things and it looks tight...too tight.

Any more tips on working around the welded crossmember and exhaust?
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Originally Posted by Vette Crazzy
just picked up a 79, and there is alot of slop in the stock shifter. is there a rebuild kit? any tricks to get this thing out of the car?

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I had a lot of play in the 72 shifter and it turned out to be the E-clip at the end of the linkage. Take a mirror and look at the left end of the piece that runs through the linkage. If the E-clip is bent or missing you can get one for less than a quarter at a hardware store. My linkage tightened up to probably factory spec when I replaced the bent/almost falling out clip. From what I have read on the forum a Hurst shifter is a great improvement but they cost more than $.25.



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Originally Posted by 72LS1Vette
I had a lot of play in the 72 shifter and it turned out to be the E-clip at the end of the linkage. Take a mirror and look at the left end of the piece that runs through the linkage. If the E-clip is bent or missing you can get one for less than a quarter at a hardware store. My linkage tightened up to probably factory spec when I replaced the bent/almost falling out clip. From what I have read on the forum a Hurst shifter is a great improvement but they cost more than $.25.



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are you talking about one of the shift rods?
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No. The rod that holds everything together up top. The shifter and all of the plates that actuate the rods. I only had a little play but it translated into a large amount of slop in the shifter mechanism. I had to squeeze the mechanism together with a Vice Grip and slip the new E-clip into the groove at the end of the rod. You can get to it by removing the shifter boot.



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Originally Posted by jim2527
How do you get it out with the exhaust system on!?!?!

Seriously, I was under my car today evaluating things and it looks tight...too tight.

Any more tips on working around the welded crossmember and exhaust?
You have to remove the exhaust hanger bracket, the transmission mount and put the transmission on a jack so you can move it up or down as necessary to get room.

Remove the arms from the transmission not the rods from the shifter.

My 72 shifter was held to a shifter mounting plate with one long bolt and two short ones.

The shifter mounting plate was held to the cross member by 4 bolts.

The cross member is welded in on all C3 4 speed cars and bolted on automatics according to the Corvette 1968-1982 Restoration Guide.


If you have a set of gear wrenches it is very helpful for tight spaces.

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Sorry, double post.

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