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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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This is not a very good pic, but all I have right now. Look at the camshaft hole. See the 2 small threaded holes at the 3'oclock and the 9'oclock positions. What are those for...maybe I am just really tired! I'm going to bed.
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Camshaft retainer plate.
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Yep...I'm tired...... .....now I'm going to bed!

Thanks DB!
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fotyfobravo
Yep...I'm tired...... .....now I'm going to bed!

Thanks DB!

Nighty night. Don't let the bed bugs bite.
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Some brain fart..I can smell it all the way over here in Texas.....J/K
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Isn't that where these go? Vented oil galley plugs? Whats in the holes now?

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Isn't that where these go? Vented oil galley plugs? Whats in the holes now?

Jughead...those are there....it was the 2 smaller holes....left and right of the cam hole, that I was confused about. What bugs me now....is I don't remember removing a "cam retainer plate". It's gotta be here somewhere!

Thanks though.
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Oh, I don't remember attaching anything in those holes.
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Oh, I don't remember attaching anything in those holes.
I think you might be correct.....This is my first assembly from a bare block. I honestly do not remember a retainer plate and I have searched in my "well organized" stack of parts from the dissasembly. I don't have one. If a BB 454 does not have a retainer plate....I needs to know. Can't find mention of it in the assembly manual for the 454 - 74 model. Maybe someone with more experience than me (which ain't hard to find) will straighten me out.
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Maybe they made provisions for one and never installed them. I know nothing og Chevy big blocks. But, on a Cadillac 472, it looked very similar, close bolt pattern and casting, and I removed a cam retainer plate. Maybe it's cast and not used for some reason.
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I think its used only in roller cam applications or heavy duty truck apps. I'm rebuilding a 454 currently and it didn't have the retainer plate. However my gen 6 block with roller cam has the retainer plate, the spaceing for the bolts are the same but they clocked it 90 degrees to clear the new locations of the oil gallies of the gen6 block.

Here's a pic of the gen6 block, you can easily see the same bolt pattern and there is a retainer plate for the roller cam in this block. It also requires a special upper timing chain sproket due to the smaller cam bolt patter since the retainer plate makes the snout of the cam a smaller diameter.

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Great pic for reference. Why do you think the older block was cast with cam retainer plate mounting holes if it was not used on the Chevy blocks.
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