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Old May 10, 2007 | 12:59 AM
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A buddy of mine was telling me that you cant get a deep mirror shine unless you use a lacquer paint like the old days. I am too young to remember the lacquer paint jobs. Did the Lacquer have that much more depth and shine than this BB/CC job? If it did does anyone have any good pics that illustrates the depth one can achieve using lacquer?

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Old May 10, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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With a good BC/CC and lot of body work and paint prep you can have a mirror finish. Have you seen Curt's 74? That's me driving.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Lacquer has to be buffed out right after painting regardless of how well you spray it. It also stays wet for a long time which helps it flow out so smooth. The problem is that it shrinks over the years and cracks up (Im talking 15+ years) and if you buff it out every week, you will hit primer soon enough. Also, lacquer can only be painted over with lacquer. If you want to go with an enamal or a ureathane in the future, it all has to be stripped off. A bb/cc can be made to look just as well but it takes an expert painter, lots of wet sanding, and lots of buffing. In my opininon its worth it for the added duability and life span. I find BB/CC also gives a much deeper "wet" look. With either system however, the paint is only going to look as good as the body work underneath. And that means many weeks of block sanding.

EDIT- Also solid colors (no metallics) look a lot shinier. The metallic refract the light in many different directions giving it a duller look.

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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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Moot point. It's against the law in most places to shoot the old lacquers. VOCs and air quality issues.

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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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We are finishing up a '66 with single-stage red DuPont acrylic urethane. I am old enough to remember lacquer finishes , and this '66 will blow it away. Todays wet/dry paper (we finish sand with 2000 grit) and newer buffing compounds give a superior gloss, IMO.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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i think dupont just put out a new line of enviro friendly lacquers it was on hotrod tv or something...look into it. I cant remember for sure but if you want it, its worth a little research. and the paint was cheap
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by big_G
We are finishing up a '66 with single-stage red DuPont acrylic urethane. I am old enough to remember lacquer finishes , and this '66 will blow it away. Todays wet/dry paper (we finish sand with 2000 grit) and newer buffing compounds give a superior gloss, IMO.


I cut my teeth on lacquer in the 60's. It's a lot easier to get a far more superior finish with todays 1k and 2k paints. It's evident at car shows in the last couple years, never in this hobby have so many people had show quality finishes. It's the technology and ease of use of todays paint that makes it possible.

Worn out 600 was the finest paper back in the lacquer days and it took a lot of wheel work to get a visably clear finish void of scratch marks.

It's the very fine scratches that show up in flourescent lighting that give even the smoothest wet sand/polish job a slight haze. Once the fine scratches are wheeled out you get the "wet look" or what people visualize as "depth."
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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I cut my teeth on lacquer in the 60's....

Same here. I shot my two with acrylic lacquer, but it was legal in those days.
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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bc/cc in my signature. Very deeeep shine!
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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Not the best picture but this is my 63 we did last year in Lacquer. It is still available (although a less-leaded version) from AutocolorLibrary.com.

Those that have been doing bodywork/paint for years have no problem with it. Will probably never shine like a well done BC/CC. However, in this case, the creamy original ermine white was period perfect INHO. Depends on what you are looking for.



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Old May 11, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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bc/cc is way better. maybe a little more demanding with prep, but that comes with the territory of being better.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Base coat / clear coat here also.........
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Old May 11, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Here's base coat and clear coat. Car never looked this good in laquer. The one thing I never liked about laquer is having the paint come off on your waxing rag. I had a Camaro (Black) paint looked great but I had to repaint it because over the years I went down to the primer. (Factory paint)

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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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Is that a Honda I see? Tsk, tsk...
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Base/clear on my Bryar Blue 72LT1:



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