1969 Corvette stingray (427)
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6th Gear
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1969 Corvette stingray (427)
Hello fellow corvette lovers. i myself am a corvette lover also (my favorite being the '69 vette stingray) and am helping develop an open source drift simulation called Vdrift. I am currently working on modeling a 427 c.i. Turbo-Jet V-8 4V carburetor L71/L89* and i am in dire need of some information on this car. i am not asking for simple information here so only a true expert can help (more then myself). this is the info i need most importantly.
And the info that i need but is much harder to come across. (telling me the exact tire model on this vette is good enough)
and not to hard yet not too easy to find...
I thank you all in advance! (its so hard to find info on this model unless if you know someone who has it!)
P.S. PHOTOS of the interior and exterior are needed (color does not matter we can edit in photoshop) try to make sure there clear (and stock as possible) so that we can have one great car!
(visit www.vdrift.net to see this project!)
Code:
drive = RWD [ steering ] max-angle = [ engine ] position = mass = max-power = peak-engine-rpm = rpm-limit = inertia = idle = start-rpm = stall-rpm = fuel-consumption = 1.779e-8 [ clutch ] sliding = radius = area = max-pressure = [ transmission ] gears = 4 gear-ratio-r = gear-ratio-1 = gear-ratio-2 = gear-ratio-3 = gear-ratio-4 = gear-ratio-5 = gear-ratio-6 = shift-delay = [ differential ] final-drive = anti-slip = [ fuel-tank ] position = capacity = volume = fuel-density = [ suspension-front ] spring-constant = bounce = rebound = travel = max-compression-velocity = camber = caster = toe = anti-roll = [ suspension-rear ] spring-constant = bounce = rebound = travel = max-compression-velocity = camber = caster = toe = anti-roll =
Code:
[ tire-front ] radius = rolling-resistance = rotational-inertia = # Lateral force a0= a1= a2= a3= a4= a5= a6= a7= a8= a9= a10= a111= a112= a12= a13= # Longitudinal force b0= b1= b2= b3= b4= b5= b6= b7= b8= b9= b10= b11= b12= # Aligning moment c0= c1= c2= c3= c4= c5= c6= c7= c8= c9= c10= c11= c12= c13= c14= c15= c16= c17= [ tire-rear ] radius = rolling-resistance = rotational-inertia = # Lateral force a0= a1= a2= a3= a4= a5= a6= a7= a8= a9= a10= a111= a112= a12= a13= # Longitudinal force b0= b1= b2= b3= b4= b5= b6= b7= b8= b9= b10= b11= b12= # Aligning moment c0= c1= c2= c3= c4= c5= c6= c7= c8= c9= c10= c11= c12= c13= c14= c15= c16= c17=
Code:
[ brakes-front ] friction = max-pressure = bias = radius = area = [ brakes-rear ] friction = max-pressure = bias = radius = area = [ driver ] position = mass = view-position = [ drag ] position = frontal-area = drag-coefficient = [ wing-front ] position = frontal-area = drag-coefficient = surface-area = lift-coefficient = efficiency = [ wing-rear ] position = frontal-area = drag-coefficient = surface-area = lift-coefficient = efficiency = [ wheel-FR ] position = roll-height = mass = restitution = [ suspension-FR ] position = hinge = [ wheel-FL ] position = roll-height = mass = restitution = [ suspension-FL ] position = hinge = [ wheel-RR ] position = roll-height = mass = restitution = [ suspension-RR ] position = hinge = [ wheel-RL ] position = roll-height = mass = restitution = [ suspension-RL ] position = hinge = [ contact-points ] # used to find the bounds of the car (for collisions) # also play into the weight distribution and balance mass = position-00 = position-01 = position-02 = position-03 = position-04 = position-05 = position-06 = position-07 = # these are used to calculate the weight distribution and balance [ particle-00 ] mass = position = [ particle-01 ] mass = position = [ particle-02 ] mass = position = [ particle-03 ] mass = position = [ particle-04 ] mass = position = [ particle-05 ] mass = position =
P.S. PHOTOS of the interior and exterior are needed (color does not matter we can edit in photoshop) try to make sure there clear (and stock as possible) so that we can have one great car!
(visit www.vdrift.net to see this project!)
Last edited by Transane; Jul 19, 2007 at 11:32 AM. Reason: Had to add something
Thread Starter
6th Gear
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From: Brooklyn New York
I'm a bit shocked at how much active this forum is (75 views) and how little posts i'm getting. im sure SOMEONE has this info to share?? I'm Kind of running out of time on this because once school starts im not going to have much time to get it done.
. (the problem is i am going to europe ugust 2nd!
!
. (the problem is i am going to europe ugust 2nd! !
Team Owner
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FWIW: Why not model an engine/car you know something about and have the data for? There are any number of published sources for 427 Chevrolet data. Ditto for '69 Corvettes. You can probably Google up everything you're looking for.
Team Owner
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Part of the problem is that some of that stuff involves options, so there were different numbers depending on your options. Trans could be M-21 or M-20, with different ratios (only 4 forward gears BTW 
) and different rear end ratios were also available.
) and different rear end ratios were also available.
Racer
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From: Bowie MD
Hello fellow [insert model here] lovers. i myself am a [insert model here] lover also (my favorite being the [insert year] [insert casual term for car make]) and am helping develop an open source drift simulation called Vdrift. I am currently working on modeling a [insert exact engine option number and associated name] and i am in dire need of some information on this car. i am not asking for simple information here so only a true expert can help (more then myself). this is the info i need most importantly.
Pro
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From: Fallbrook CA
Wow....That's "Mucho Quanto Data" as we'd say here in the SW. Looks like you are an intern for a video game software company???
OK, I do not have a 427-'69 Vette but since I wish I did, I'll try to answer some of you questions.
Drive=RWD (we agree on that one).
HP/Torque=Sheet Loads.
Babe Magnet=Hard to top.
OK...That was fun, but seriously, I think it would take a GM Engineer to answer most of your questions. I'm not sure where you are located but I'm sure there is a Forum member in your area with a 427-'69 who would enjoy showing you their car and helping you figure out this data. What is your location?
Good Luck with your project and let us know how it goes.....gp
OK, I do not have a 427-'69 Vette but since I wish I did, I'll try to answer some of you questions.
Drive=RWD (we agree on that one).
HP/Torque=Sheet Loads.
Babe Magnet=Hard to top.
OK...That was fun, but seriously, I think it would take a GM Engineer to answer most of your questions. I'm not sure where you are located but I'm sure there is a Forum member in your area with a 427-'69 who would enjoy showing you their car and helping you figure out this data. What is your location?
Good Luck with your project and let us know how it goes.....gp
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6th Gear
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From: Brooklyn New York
Sorry i havent been able to post. i have been babysitting all weekend and just got home now. i live in brooklyn NY but i am going on vacation to europe on august 2nd . Here is an example. and YES i have done A LOT of googling. (this is for the Z06 corvette that we already modelled.)
thats everything at once. no im not an intern just a 'vette luvvin tech nerd whos willin to help out with a freeware project.
(sorry for all errors im rushing
)
. Here is an example. and YES i have done A LOT of googling. (this is for the Z06 corvette that we already modelled.)Code:
drive = RWD [ steering ] max-angle = 36.0 [ engine ] position = 1.4, 0.0, -0.1 mass = 200.0 max-power = 2.871e5 peak-engine-rpm = 6000.0 rpm-limit = 6500.0 inertia = 0.5 idle = 0.025 start-rpm = 1000 stall-rpm = 500 fuel-consumption = 0.0001 torque-friction = 0.001 torque-curve-00 = 1000, 361.04 torque-curve-01 = 2000, 380.10 torque-curve-02 = 2500, 389.70 torque-curve-03 = 3000, 396.24 torque-curve-04 = 3300, 414.09 torque-curve-05 = 3500, 435.71 torque-curve-06 = 3800, 450.14 torque-curve-07 = 3900, 462.89 torque-curve-08 = 4000, 472.37 torque-curve-09 = 4100, 477.32 torque-curve-10 = 4200, 483.11 torque-curve-11 = 4400, 480.30 torque-curve-12 = 4600, 469.45 torque-curve-13 = 4900, 450.12 torque-curve-14 = 5500, 428.78 torque-curve-15 = 6000, 380.61 torque-curve-16 = 6500, 336.0 [ clutch ] sliding = 0.27 radius = 0.05 area = 0.12354 max-pressure = 4.9e5 [ transmission ] gears = 6 gear-ratio-r = -3.28 gear-ratio-1 = 2.97 gear-ratio-2 = 2.07 gear-ratio-3 = 1.43 gear-ratio-4 = 1.00 gear-ratio-5 = 0.84 gear-ratio-6 = 0.56 shift-delay=0.08 [ differential ] final-drive = 3.42 anti-slip = 400.0 [ fuel-tank ] position = -1.2, -0.1, -0.26 capacity = 100.0 volume = 100.0 fuel-density = 0.8 [ suspension-front ] spring-constant = 60000.0 bounce = 7000.0 rebound = 7500.0 travel = 0.12 max-compression-velocity = 10.0 camber = -1.33 caster = 6.12 toe = 0.0 anti-roll = 10000.0 [ suspension-rear ] spring-constant = 45000.0 bounce = 5500.0 rebound = 6000.0 travel = 0.12 max-compression-velocity = 10.0 camber = -0.45 caster = 0.28 toe = 0.2 anti-roll = 10000.0 [ tire-front ] radius = 0.3284 rolling-resistance = 1.3e-2, 6.5e-6 rotational-inertia = 10.0 tread = 0.0 # Lateral force a0=1.3 a1=-49 a2=1216 a3=1632 a4=11 a5=0.006 a6=-0.04 a7=-0.4 a8=0.003 a9=-0.002 a10=0.16 a111=-11 a112=0.045 a12=0.17 a13=-23.5 # Longitudinal force b0=1.57 b1=-48 b2=1338 b3=6.8 b4=444 b5=0 b6=0.0034 b7=-0.008 b8=0.66 b9=0 b10=0 b11=0 b12=0 # Aligning moment c0=2.46 c1=-2.77 c2=-2.9 c3=-0 c4=-3.6 c5=-0.1 c6=0.0004 c7=0.22 c8=-2.31 c9=3.87 c10=0.0007 c11=-0.05 c12=-0.006 c13=0.33 c14=-0.04 c15=-0.4 c16=0.092 c17=0.0114 [ tire-rear ] radius = 0.3284 rolling-resistance = 1.3e-2, 6.5e-6 rotational-inertia = 10.0 tread = 0.0 # Lateral force a0=1.3 a1=-49 a2=1216 a3=1632 a4=11 a5=0.006 a6=-0.04 a7=-0.4 a8=0.003 a9=-0.002 a10=0.16 a111=-11 a112=0.045 a12=0.17 a13=-23.5 # Longitudinal force b0=1.57 b1=-48 b2=1338 b3=6.8 b4=444 b5=0 b6=0.0034 b7=-0.008 b8=0.66 b9=0 b10=0 b11=0 b12=0 # Aligning moment c0=2.46 c1=-2.77 c2=-2.9 c3=-0 c4=-3.6 c5=-0.1 c6=0.0004 c7=0.22 c8=-2.31 c9=3.87 c10=0.0007 c11=-0.05 c12=-0.006 c13=0.33 c14=-0.04 c15=-0.4 c16=0.092 c17=0.0114 [ brakes-front ] friction = 0.6 max-pressure = 3.8e6 bias = 0.6 radius = 0.18 area = 0.01 [ brakes-rear ] friction = 0.6 max-pressure = 3.0e6 bias = 0.4 radius = 0.15 area = 0.01 handbrake = 1.0 [ driver ] position = -0.68, 0.3, -0.2 mass = 90.0 view-position = -0.68, 0.3, 0.3 hood-mounted-view-position = 0.5, 0, 0.2 [ drag ] position = 0.0, 0.0, -0.60 frontal-area = 2.0 drag-coefficient = 0.3 [ wing-front ] position = 2.34, 0, -0.6 frontal-area = 0.2 drag-coefficient = 0 surface-area = 0.3 lift-coefficient = -0.5 efficiency = 0.95 [ wing-rear ] position = -2.14, 0, 0.37 frontal-area = 0.2 drag-coefficient = 0 surface-area = 0.5 lift-coefficient = -0.5 efficiency = 0.95 [ wheel-FR ] position = 1.30, -0.66, -0.46 roll-height = 0.2 mass = 26.0 restitution = 0.1 [ suspension-FR ] position = 1.30, -0.51, -0.32 hinge = 0,0,-0.1 [ wheel-FL ] position = 1.30, 0.66, -0.46 roll-height = 0.2 mass = 26.0 restitution = 0.1 [ suspension-FL ] position = 1.30, 0.51, -0.32 hinge = 0,0,-0.1 [ wheel-RR ] position = -1.25, -0.66, -0.48 roll-height = 0.2 mass = 26.0 restitution = 0.1 [ suspension-RR ] position = -1.25, -0.51, -0.32 hinge = 0,0,-0.1 [ wheel-RL ] position = -1.25, 0.66, -0.48 roll-height = 0.2 mass = 26.0 restitution = 0.1 [ suspension-RL ] position = -1.25, 0.51, -0.32 hinge = 0,0,-0.1 [ contact-points ] # used to find the bounds of the car (for collisions) # also play into the weight distribution and balance mass = 33 position-00 = -2.32, 1.11, -0.62 position-01 = 2.32, 1.11, -0.62 position-02 = -2.32, -1.11, -0.62 position-03 = 2.32, -1.11, -0.62 # these are used to calculate the weight distribution and balance [ particle-00 ] mass = 248 position = -2.3, 1.11, -0.22 [ particle-01 ] mass = 248 position = -2.3, -1.11, -0.22 [ particle-02 ] mass = 218 position = 2.3, 1.11, -0.22 [ particle-03 ] mass = 218 position = 2.3, -1.11, -0.22
(sorry for all errors im rushing
)
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6th Gear
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From: Brooklyn New York
I'm not a girl but i just have 2 little twin cousins who i like to take care of... and also i get my uncles Lexus when i turn 18. (i know its not a corvette or even a chevy but hey Wouldnt you babysit for a 60,000 dollar car?)
Le Mans Master
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From: Wilmington DE, Drive it like you stole it, 68 327 4 speed coupe
Hello fellow corvette lovers. i myself am a corvette lover also (my favorite being the '69 vette stingray) and am helping develop an open source drift simulation called Vdrift. I am currently working on modeling a 427 c.i. Turbo-Jet V-8 4V carburetor L71/L89* and i am in dire need of some information on this car. i am not asking for simple information here so only a true expert can help (more then myself). this is the info i need most importantly.
[CODE]drive = RWD
[CODE]drive = RWD
You will need to give them the VIN, year and make , and they will sent you this package for free, I got mine in about two weeks, and it has everything you want, plus info on GM< certified distributor
cheers
Tim
Le Mans Master
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From: Wilmington DE, Drive it like you stole it, 68 327 4 speed coupe
Hello fellow [insert model here] lovers. i myself am a [insert model here] lover also (my favorite being the [insert year] [insert casual term for car make]) and am helping develop an open source drift simulation called Vdrift. I am currently working on modeling a [insert exact engine option number and associated name] and i am in dire need of some information on this car. i am not asking for simple information here so only a true expert can help (more then myself). this is the info i need most importantly.
I'm a bit shocked at how much active this forum is (75 views) and how little posts i'm getting. im sure SOMEONE has this info to share?? I'm Kind of running out of time on this because once school starts im not going to have much time to get it done. . (the problem is i am going to europe ugust 2nd! !
. (the problem is i am going to europe ugust 2nd! !I am always amazed at noobs who log on looking for instant gratification on out in left field questions, especially the kind you want.
Like its the forums fault you couldnt get an answer in 20 seconds flat.
you dont post any info on your self, dont fill out a profile, and ask for information to do some project that Only a "true expert" can answer (as opposed to all us fake experts) and then complain that no once can give you MFG/ engineering level information based on your schedule
God forbid we should upset your travel plans
ahhh to be 17 again
sheesh
Good things come to those who wait, Call GM and get thier restoration package, and have a little patience
Rant over, flame me if you will, I can take it
Last edited by sweethence; Jul 25, 2007 at 11:16 AM.
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6th Gear
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From: Brooklyn New York
I may be a noob on this forum but i am not on many others
now im not in the mood to flame. is there some way i can obtain a vin on this car? hmmmm come to think of it i have a cousin who works at GM:o im going to give him a call and ask him to get me some info if he can. thanks for your help anyway.
P.S. (17/2)+(9/2) = My Age. Figure it out.
P.P.S (i will stay active on the corvette forums anyway...
)
now im not in the mood to flame. is there some way i can obtain a vin on this car? hmmmm come to think of it i have a cousin who works at GM:o im going to give him a call and ask him to get me some info if he can. thanks for your help anyway. P.S. (17/2)+(9/2) = My Age. Figure it out.
P.P.S (i will stay active on the corvette forums anyway...
)
Racer
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From: San Jose California
I may be a noob on this forum but i am not on many others now im not in the mood to flame. is there some way i can obtain a vin on this car? hmmmm come to think of it i have a cousin who works at GM:o im going to give him a call and ask him to get me some info if he can. thanks for your help anyway.
P.S. (17/2)+(9/2) = My Age. Figure it out.
P.P.S (i will stay active on the corvette forums anyway... )
now im not in the mood to flame. is there some way i can obtain a vin on this car? hmmmm come to think of it i have a cousin who works at GM:o im going to give him a call and ask him to get me some info if he can. thanks for your help anyway. P.S. (17/2)+(9/2) = My Age. Figure it out.
P.P.S (i will stay active on the corvette forums anyway...
)Well I can tell you that with your engine specifications there is going to be a horsepower deviation for even an engine with the same specifications. I would find out what type of transmission you have ie. m20, m21, m22 and then find out your gear ratio, and then find out your tire height yadayayayya.
Pretty bright for a 13 year old.
Melting Slicks
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6th Gear
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From: Brooklyn New York
He wont be very un-happy if i do trade it in. I know about the different transmission options and will probably end up going with the heavy duty (instead of the stock close, or super close.) I may just make a couple of different versions of it (not to hard because it just uses the same body). Thank you for calling me bright!
P.S. This is the 21st century my friends. men now babysit. i know how this may shock some of you. but i really want that lexus so i can sell it for a 'vette! (i cant wait to wax my 'vette)
P.S. This is the 21st century my friends. men now babysit. i know how this may shock some of you. but i really want that lexus so i can sell it for a 'vette! (i cant wait to wax my 'vette)
