Installed new calipers...
Pro
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 573
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From: Georgetown Township MI
Re: Brake Bleed
Hello,
I just bought and used the $30.00 model.
My friends have them and used on their early 70,71 and 72 Corvettes
and had no problem. It worked for me too - so I thought.
It pulled the fluid, when the bubbles stopped,
I quick cinched up the bleeder and went on to the next,
while maintaining the fluid level in my master cylinder.
Now, I'm not sure if I have the cap on in the right direction.
Could that make a difference? I noticed the there are two different
heights in the diaphragms in the backside of cover. Which reservoir
does the taller of the two go?
Rudy
I just bought and used the $30.00 model.
My friends have them and used on their early 70,71 and 72 Corvettes
and had no problem. It worked for me too - so I thought.
It pulled the fluid, when the bubbles stopped,
I quick cinched up the bleeder and went on to the next,
while maintaining the fluid level in my master cylinder.
Now, I'm not sure if I have the cap on in the right direction.
Could that make a difference? I noticed the there are two different
heights in the diaphragms in the backside of cover. Which reservoir
does the taller of the two go?
Rudy
Racer
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 473
Likes: 18
From: Holland MI
Rudy,
You probably have to bench bleed the MC.
I also own a Motive Power Bleeder, so once you get the MC bled we can try that.
Please check your rims on the inside and see if there's brake fluid on them, leaking from the calipers.
PH
You probably have to bench bleed the MC.
I also own a Motive Power Bleeder, so once you get the MC bled we can try that.
Please check your rims on the inside and see if there's brake fluid on them, leaking from the calipers.
PH
Pro
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 573
Likes: 5
From: Georgetown Township MI
Re:
Hello,
I put the car back in the air - on jack stands all the way around.
After taking the tires off, I loosened and backed off the brake line
to the right rear caliper. I'm trying to remove the right rear caliper
and was told in order to get it off the disc, to remove the two lower
bolts.
I attached some pics, one in particular with the open end wrench
on one of the bolts and would like to know which direction to loosen.
Regardless, they are on super tight.
I soaked them with liquid wrench and I just can't get them to budge
and there is no room to use a breaker bar. Assuming I'm going in the
right direction - right to left. Look at the pics and let me know which
direction to go please.
I don't know what I can do to break them loose.
Also, I'm assuming they are the problem, having fluid
down the back of my tires and no fluid on my metal or rubber lines
and not on my bleeder screws.
I put the car back in the air - on jack stands all the way around.
After taking the tires off, I loosened and backed off the brake line
to the right rear caliper. I'm trying to remove the right rear caliper
and was told in order to get it off the disc, to remove the two lower
bolts.
I attached some pics, one in particular with the open end wrench
on one of the bolts and would like to know which direction to loosen.
Regardless, they are on super tight.
I soaked them with liquid wrench and I just can't get them to budge
and there is no room to use a breaker bar. Assuming I'm going in the
right direction - right to left. Look at the pics and let me know which
direction to go please.
I don't know what I can do to break them loose.
Also, I'm assuming they are the problem, having fluid
down the back of my tires and no fluid on my metal or rubber lines
and not on my bleeder screws.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,817
Likes: 21
From: Somerset, NJ
Rudy,
Sounds to me that you definitely have leaking calipers and yes they must come off. To loosen those bolts you need to turn the bolts counter clockwise the oposite way that a clock turns. You always tighten bolts to the right and loosen them to the left facing the bolt. From any side of the car not facing the bolt you would need to go the oposite way. Hope you are not confused. If they are on that tight and you can't budge them with a good boxed end wrench or rachet give the wrench a wack with a rubber mallet and that should do the trick for you. Hope you have a quality wrench or rachet to use that won't strip. At least Craftsman quality. A good size rubber mallet will do the trick and be as good if not better then a breaker bar since there isn't much room there.
Looking at the 2nd picture you posted of your caliper you would loosen that bolt by turning it to the right.
Sounds to me that you definitely have leaking calipers and yes they must come off. To loosen those bolts you need to turn the bolts counter clockwise the oposite way that a clock turns. You always tighten bolts to the right and loosen them to the left facing the bolt. From any side of the car not facing the bolt you would need to go the oposite way. Hope you are not confused. If they are on that tight and you can't budge them with a good boxed end wrench or rachet give the wrench a wack with a rubber mallet and that should do the trick for you. Hope you have a quality wrench or rachet to use that won't strip. At least Craftsman quality. A good size rubber mallet will do the trick and be as good if not better then a breaker bar since there isn't much room there.
Looking at the 2nd picture you posted of your caliper you would loosen that bolt by turning it to the right.
Pro
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 573
Likes: 5
From: Georgetown Township MI
ffas23,
I do understand what you are saying -
however you mentioned that if I'm not facing
the bolt, go the opposite way to loosen which, is clockwise.
Here is where you got me. If you look at my photo,
I'm not facing the bolt, when I look from the top - down
assuming I were look straight ahead on it, turning it clockwise
would be tightening the bolt and not loosening. Since all caliper bolts
are on the backside and not the front side, based on what you just wrote,
I'm supposed to ????
I do understand what you are saying -
however you mentioned that if I'm not facing
the bolt, go the opposite way to loosen which, is clockwise.
Here is where you got me. If you look at my photo,
I'm not facing the bolt, when I look from the top - down
assuming I were look straight ahead on it, turning it clockwise
would be tightening the bolt and not loosening. Since all caliper bolts
are on the backside and not the front side, based on what you just wrote,
I'm supposed to ????
Last edited by Rudy's Stingray; Aug 18, 2007 at 12:22 AM.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,817
Likes: 21
From: Somerset, NJ
ffas23,
I do understand what you are saying -
however you mentioned that if I'm not facing
the bolt, go the opposite way to loosen which, is clockwise.
Here is where you got me. If you look at my photo,
I'm not facing the bolt, when I look from the top - down
assuming I were look straight ahead on it, turning it clockwise
would be tightening the bolt and not loosening. Since all caliper bolts
are on the backside and not the front side, based on what you just wrote,
I'm supposed to ????
I do understand what you are saying -
however you mentioned that if I'm not facing
the bolt, go the opposite way to loosen which, is clockwise.
Here is where you got me. If you look at my photo,
I'm not facing the bolt, when I look from the top - down
assuming I were look straight ahead on it, turning it clockwise
would be tightening the bolt and not loosening. Since all caliper bolts
are on the backside and not the front side, based on what you just wrote,
I'm supposed to ????
On the passenger side of which you took a picture you are behind the 2 bolts holding your caliper on the car. Also in the picture you show your boxed end wrench already sitting on one of the bolts. Turn that wrench to the right. If you can't loosen it that way hold the wrench on the bolt and wack it with a rubber mallet to the right. It should then loosen. Do the same with the other bolt on the caliper. Don't forget what I said in my last post. When facing the bolt tighten clockwise, loosen counterclockwise. In this case in your picture you are not facing the bolt you are behind it. You will be doing this the same way on each caliper because you will be behind the bolts.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,817
Likes: 21
From: Somerset, NJ
Rudy,
I just took another look at your picture. I hope that wrench has a box end on both sides since the top of that wrench shows the boxed end. Most of my wrenchs have a open end on one side and box end on the other side although I have boxed end wrenchs that have a box end on both sides. You don't want to try and break that nut using an open end wrench. It may strip your bolt. If that is the case and you have the same type of wrench that I do turn the wrench around and use the boxed end. Hope I am not confusing you any here.
I just took another look at your picture. I hope that wrench has a box end on both sides since the top of that wrench shows the boxed end. Most of my wrenchs have a open end on one side and box end on the other side although I have boxed end wrenchs that have a box end on both sides. You don't want to try and break that nut using an open end wrench. It may strip your bolt. If that is the case and you have the same type of wrench that I do turn the wrench around and use the boxed end. Hope I am not confusing you any here.
Pro
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 573
Likes: 5
From: Georgetown Township MI
ffas23,
Thanks for the vote of confidence - mad:
I don't get that confused. I was only asking
for a little help here. Gee Whiz! I work with metrics
more than I have with US Customary and that's probably
the way I was looking at in regards to what direction to turn.
Anyway, with your help (Thank you) with the use a rubber mallet and
after purchasing a 1/2 inch standard, 6 point socket, I was able to free
up the bolts and got all four calipers off.
Rudy:
Thanks for the vote of confidence - mad:
I don't get that confused. I was only asking
for a little help here. Gee Whiz! I work with metrics
more than I have with US Customary and that's probably
the way I was looking at in regards to what direction to turn.
Anyway, with your help (Thank you) with the use a rubber mallet and
after purchasing a 1/2 inch standard, 6 point socket, I was able to free
up the bolts and got all four calipers off.
Rudy:
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Racer
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 473
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From: Holland MI
Anyway, with your help (Thank you) with the use a rubber mallet and after purchasing a 1/2 inch standard, 6 point socket, I was able to freeup the bolts and got all four calipers off.
Rudy:
Rudy:
Make sure you clean them before we take them to Carlisle for exchange.
Call me if you need anything.
I'll give you a tip on some very reasonably priced tools, too.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,817
Likes: 21
From: Somerset, NJ
ffas23,
Thanks for the vote of confidence - mad:
I don't get that confused. I was only asking
for a little help here. Gee Whiz! I work with metrics
more than I have with US Customary and that's probably
the way I was looking at in regards to what direction to turn.
Anyway, with your help (Thank you) with the use a rubber mallet and
after purchasing a 1/2 inch standard, 6 point socket, I was able to free
up the bolts and got all four calipers off.
Rudy:
Thanks for the vote of confidence - mad:
I don't get that confused. I was only asking
for a little help here. Gee Whiz! I work with metrics
more than I have with US Customary and that's probably
the way I was looking at in regards to what direction to turn.
Anyway, with your help (Thank you) with the use a rubber mallet and
after purchasing a 1/2 inch standard, 6 point socket, I was able to free
up the bolts and got all four calipers off.
Rudy:
Don't have a cow as Bart Simpson would say. Hey I helped you out didn't I? Next time I will skip your thread since this is how you feel about me but I was there for you this time whether I thought I was confusing you or not. Please don't forget that. No reason to get on me because you were having a problem with left and right. Thats all it was.
Pro
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 573
Likes: 5
From: Georgetown Township MI
ffas23,
Dear Sir,
If you read a bit further in my response to you,
I said thank you for your help. Yes, you did help me.
Please, do not take offense in my response to you.
I just didn't appreciate the comment about being easily confused.
I don't "feel" anything bad about you, if that's what your implying.
Yes, you were there for me. Trust me, I won't forget that.
I was obviously being very careful and was looking at
something that was unfamiliar to me. So my reaction to your
comment was purely out of frustration.
If its all the same to you, I would like to apologize to you.
I do not want any ill feelings between us. From what I have read,
your are well versed on Corvettes and would appreciate your help in
the future. So please do not skip a post I make if you have the
answer.
Dear Sir,
If you read a bit further in my response to you,
I said thank you for your help. Yes, you did help me.
Please, do not take offense in my response to you.
I just didn't appreciate the comment about being easily confused.
I don't "feel" anything bad about you, if that's what your implying.
Yes, you were there for me. Trust me, I won't forget that.
I was obviously being very careful and was looking at
something that was unfamiliar to me. So my reaction to your
comment was purely out of frustration.
If its all the same to you, I would like to apologize to you.
I do not want any ill feelings between us. From what I have read,
your are well versed on Corvettes and would appreciate your help in
the future. So please do not skip a post I make if you have the
answer.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,817
Likes: 21
From: Somerset, NJ
ffas23,
Dear Sir,
If you read a bit further in my response to you,
I said thank you for your help. Yes, you did help me.
Please, do not take offense in my response to you.
I just didn't appreciate the comment about being easily confused.
I don't "feel" anything bad about you, if that's what your implying.
Yes, you were there for me. Trust me, I won't forget that.
I was obviously being very careful and was looking at
something that was unfamiliar to me. So my reaction to your
comment was purely out of frustration.
If its all the same to you, I would like to apologize to you.
I do not want any ill feelings between us. From what I have read,
your are well versed on Corvettes and would appreciate your help in
the future. So please do not skip a post I make if you have the
answer.
Dear Sir,
If you read a bit further in my response to you,
I said thank you for your help. Yes, you did help me.
Please, do not take offense in my response to you.
I just didn't appreciate the comment about being easily confused.
I don't "feel" anything bad about you, if that's what your implying.
Yes, you were there for me. Trust me, I won't forget that.
I was obviously being very careful and was looking at
something that was unfamiliar to me. So my reaction to your
comment was purely out of frustration.
If its all the same to you, I would like to apologize to you.
I do not want any ill feelings between us. From what I have read,
your are well versed on Corvettes and would appreciate your help in
the future. So please do not skip a post I make if you have the
answer.
Rick
