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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:03 PM
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Hey guys,

Long story short, the previous owner either never had the key or lost it to the lug nuts on my 80 vette. I realized this about two weeks ago as i prepared to do the brakes. 5 tire shops later and the gm dealership, no one could get me the correct replacement lug nuts or had a master key to remove them......

i ordered some replacements through zip (regular lug nuts for the premium wheels). has anyone removed the locking ones without the key here? I'm going to try slicing a 15/16 socket down the side tonight and hopefully i can hammer it on there and the slice will allow it to expand over the lug.

One place offered to take an air chisel to them but would not guarantee no damage.... any help would be greatly appreciated, i need to get these brakes done so i can move on to other stuff. thanks.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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There was a post a while back with a link to a site selling universal removal kits.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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I have been able to get some locking lugs off with this handy limited use tool.

It may not work if the lugs are overtightened, but it's cheap and might actually work just fine for you too.

http://www.seenontv.com/prod-pages/gatorgrip.html
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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I got all 4 of mine off with a hammer and chisel. I didnt have any damage. Start it off directly in line with the nut to make a good size groove then angle it and it will start to turn as you hit it.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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thanks for the tips guys, i'll give it a try.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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I have heard that most tire shops have a tool to remove locking lug nuts.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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I have the same problem with my 78. I got a tool from Matco Tools that is made to take the off. The part # is TS500.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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The same thing happened to me when I bought my 81. I was lucky and was able to clamp a pair of vise grips on them and turn them off. Good Luck to you.
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Old Sep 18, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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I just had the same problem on mine. I used a 15/16 socket, sledged it on the lock nut and used the breaker bar to remove them. I used an old pushrod, vice and hammer to remove the 'stuck' lugs from the sockets then.
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Originally Posted by chuck d
I have heard that most tire shops have a tool to remove locking lug nuts.
That's true. Just about any decent mechanic will have a wheel lock removal tool. No way a technician is going to lose a good paying rake job over not being able to find a wheel lock key. They just hammer on the tool below and the reverse threads cut into the locking lug nut. I doubt if anyone is going to volunteer to do it for you as they have better things to do during the work day, but I'd bet if you toss one of them a twenty spot, he'd get em off for you in a jiffy.


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Originally Posted by sperkins
That's true. Just about any decent mechanic will have a wheel lock removal tool. No way a technician is going to lose a good paying rake job over not being able to find a wheel lock key. They just hammer on the tool below and the reverse threads cut into the locking lug nut. I doubt if anyone is going to volunteer to do it for you as they have better things to do during the work day, but I'd bet if you toss one of them a twenty spot, he'd get em off for you in a jiffy.



Scott - Where can I buy one or both of those reverse out sockets?
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
Scott - Where can I buy one or both of those reverse out sockets?
If you don't have access to a tool truck such as Snap-On, you can always get a 10 piece set at Sears:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070515x00001a

I meant to add that the Craftsman brand is not as heavy duty as a Snap-On type, but it should work in a pinch if used correctly. Also, I don't think this tool set is covered under the free warraty replacement policy like many other Craftsman tools. Probably imported and poor grade metal.
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Originally Posted by sperkins
If you don't have access to a tool truck such as Snap-On, you can always get a 10 piece set at Sears:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0070515x00001a

Sweet, thanks buddy.
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I've always just welded an old lug nut to the end and then taken them off with a lug wrench.

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by greg454
I've always just welded an old lug nut to the end and then taken them off with a lug wrench.

Greg

Most of these new locking lugs are chrome. Makes welding the nut on a bit harder.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Had the same problem on my 69. Take a standard socket that is slightly bigger than the lock nut and pound it on the lock nut with a hammer. They will turn right off. Repeat 3x.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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If you know who manufactured them you may be able to get a replacement key. I lost the key to the McGard locks on my Mustang a couple of years ago. Emailed them a digital pic, paid $10 and 5 days later I had a new key.

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Originally Posted by sperkins
If you don't have access to a tool truck such as Snap-On, you can always get a 10 piece set at Sears:

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I buy my Snap-On stuff from their internet page or call in on their 800 number. One thing I'm missing out on I believe, is that with a Snap-On truck franchisee, you can negotiate on the price of expensive items.

I'm beginning to suspect that the quality of Sears tools is not what it used to be. Can't really say for sure that's true just a suspicion.
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Another vote for the over-sized socket, sledge hammer, and breaker bar. Worked for me. Was fast and cheap!
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Originally Posted by sperkins
That's true. Just about any decent mechanic will have a wheel lock removal tool. No way a technician is going to lose a good paying rake job over not being able to find a wheel lock key. They just hammer on the tool below and the reverse threads cut into the locking lug nut. I doubt if anyone is going to volunteer to do it for you as they have better things to do during the work day, but I'd bet if you toss one of them a twenty spot, he'd get em off for you in a jiffy.


Yeah, and if that mechanic trashes my lug nuts without asking me, he'll never get another dime from me or from anyone I know.
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