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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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just bought spark plugs and had a hell of a time getting out so i dont want to do it twice, question is plugs i took out are ac delco r 44 xl. new ones are one car calls for are r 44 t. its a 72 454. the xls have a longer thread to make plug go in farther. can someone tell me why and which 1 should i use?
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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According to AC Delco's website it's either R44TS or R45TS. Nothing about an extended tip. But, I have little to no experience with the 454 engine.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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I would use the ones called for and that is the R44TS which has a little longer tip already than the plain R44T, not sure why they used the "XL" extra long tips unless they figured longer is better..LOL

http://www.acdelco.com/parts/sparkpl...tification.jsp

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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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R44TS plugs are as common as mud. The XL's are a full 3/4 reach according to AC's book. The extended tip on the TS plugs is supposedly to project the electrode into the cylinder a bit more and into the intake charge for longer plug life and cleaner emissions. Does it work?? No idea.

Use the R44TS plugs, they will work fine. It's what the factory installed in lots of cars.
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Old Feb 25, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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UNLESS your motor has NEVER been re-built -
you will not be sure of clearances...
I would use the same as you took out.
Call me conservative, just me.
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The ones he took out are too long and not what are spec'd for his motor, that is not being conservative.
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cant find r44ts, only r44t ,that is also what dealer told me. the r44t.
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R44T will be fine- gap them at .035 The difference between the 2 (R44T and R44TS) is just the tip. With a stock point type ignition any bigger gap may cause a miss. Is the emissions label still readable? It'll have the plug gap printed on it..
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The plugs you pulled out are used only on the '71 LS6 aluminum head 454 engine. Those plugs are very difficult to find. The 1970, '71 & '72 454 LS5's call for a tapered seat plug style. The '69 second design L88 and ZL-1 engines used a R43XL, while the '71 LS6 called for a R44XL.
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ill check the label and thanks to all. nutsy.
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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If your car has the original equipment heads I would stick with the T plugs. I had the same question a while back and found some good info on the NCRS site. Here is the link to that thread.

http://www.ncrs.org/forum/archive33.cgi?review=298435
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