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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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I finally get a buyer for my car. I haven't sold it to him yet. I was driving the car to a muffler shop for some work for the new owner. I hear a persistant tap or knock coming from the heart of the enginne. I listened to it at an idle. It sounds like a rod knocking or according to one of the local car guys, a thrust bearing going bad. When the engine is reved up, the noise increases and matches the engine rpm if that makes sense. If it is a rod or bearing, what am I looking at for a repair?
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Before you pull you engine out, make sure you don't have a sticky lifter. When these cars aren't driven very much, varnish and sludge build up can prevent your lifters from pumping up, which will produce valve train noise. An oil change with a cleaning additive and a nice long drive ought to do the trick if that's your problem.

Although bottom end problems are a possibility, it is not likely absent a situation involving low oil, water in the oil, significant overheating or prolonged high rpms.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Church
I hear a persistant tap or knock coming from the heart of the enginne.
A tap is quite different than a knock. Use a stethescope or a piece of rubber hose on the valve covers while the engine is running to listen for noise coming from the upper end/head area. That could mean a lifter which oil detergent cleaner and a good drive might cure.

Originally Posted by Rick Church
If it is a rod or bearing, what am I looking at for a repair?
It's very difficult to diagnose a problem without hearing it. You don't say what weight oil you are using but if it's something like 5W20 or 5W30, you could try a heavier oil like 20W50 just to see if the noise goes away.
Better yet, you could pull the oil pan and check rod bearing clearances and/or examine the bearing inserts. Replacing rod bearings would not be that difficult or expensive but if the engine is worn that much, other parts such as oil pump, main bearings, and rings might soon need attention as well.
You are selling the car so it's your call if you want to go beyond just fixing the immediate problem.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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I felt your pain. I had a knock that turned out to be a spun bearing and toasted crank. Try removing the belts and run the motor. You may get lucky and it a water pump. Have you lost any oil pressure? Also pull the valve covers and see if all the lifters are moving.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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In addition to above, it could be just a carbon knock/ticking sound...typically,carbon noises are high in engine....it also could be a broken valve spring...
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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i would drain the oil and look there first. Most likely, knocking sounds are not good.
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