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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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I've been rebuilding the brakes piece by piece since I got this car. At every turn, I've found something messed up, such as missing parking brake hardware.

I have rebuilt or replaced most of the preriferal parts and now decided that the master cylinder was dead. Got the part on Friday and set aside time today to put it in. Went to unbolt the old one and what did I find:



There are two nuts and a stack of shims. This couldn't be good news:



Got these off to see why, knowing that I wasn't going to like what I saw:



The stud is stripped where the nut would sit. That's why they put on shim stack. Got the MC off and look at the two studs. WTF????



The two studs are considerably different in length. There can't be a stock vehicle where this would be correct would there? Are these studs removable? I know that you can't twist them out

I don't even mind buying a new booster. What makes me crazy is that it'll take yet another week to get this POS back on the road.

I know that I should have checked earlier, but I keep finding problems that never even occured to me.

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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Looks as if one of the studs has already started to back out. I would remove the two of them and replace with new. Locktite them in place. Bubba should have changed them when he stripped it.
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Old Jun 1, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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I don't know how easily the studs can be replaced. Someone on the forum may have done that, or try: www.brakeboosters.com a call and see what they say. Can't tell from the picture how bad your threads actually are. Did you try running a thread chaser over the stud to see if there was enough metal there to re-form the threads? On my OEM 1976 booster both of the master cylinder studs stick out 1" from the face of the booster equally. Hope that helps you some.

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I don't know how easily the studs can be replaced. Someone on the forum may have done that, or try: www.brakeboosters.com a call and see what they say. Can't tell from the picture how bad your threads actually are. Did you try running a thread chaser over the stud to see if there was enough metal there to re-form the threads? On my OEM 1976 booster both of the master cylinder studs stick out 1" from the face of the booster equally. Hope that helps you some.
Threads are pretty much smooth at the point where the nut would have sat. I tried using my stud remover and it didn't budge. I'm wondering if the stud is knurled and set from the inside.

Good link! I sent the guy an email and asked hime if this was rebuildable, though I'll probably just buy a replacement.
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Threads are pretty much smooth at the point where the nut would have sat. I tried using my stud remover and it didn't budge. I'm wondering if the stud is knurled and set from the inside.

Good link! I sent the guy an email and asked hime if this was rebuildable, though I'll probably just buy a replacement.
Highly doubt the stud is knurled and set from the inside(would not be cost effective from a manufacturing standpoint as that area would also have to be sealed to prevent a vacuum leak).

I would think it is a normal double threaded stud with threads on both ends and an unthreaded portion in the centre of the stud. The picture leads me to believe that the one stud has already been partially extracted. Typically you would put on two nuts on one stud, jam them together and remove the stud by turning the inside nut to remove.

If unable to replace the studs you will need to replace the booster.
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Highly doubt the stud is knurled and set from the inside(would not be cost effective from a manufacturing standpoint as that area would also have to be sealed to prevent a vacuum leak).

If unable to replace the studs you will need to replace the booster.
I spent some time with the GM service manual last night and it looks like this is, indeed the case. I can't tell if they a knurled, but they are definately studs mounted (presumably pressed in) from the inside. Not a trivial job to pull the booster appart either.

I wonder if it's time for a hydroboost conversion. Dang, even more lost time.
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Bubba's been the booster.


Don't screw with it, just replace the booster.


now say 5 hail marys for calling your Corvette a pos.
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Originally Posted by pbcanney
Bubba's been the booster.


Don't screw with it, just replace the booster.


now say 5 hail marys for calling your Corvette a pos.
I forgot the Hail Marys.
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