New Pure One Oil Filter
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
New Pure One Oil Filter
Purolator's 99.9% efficient Pure One oil filters are now covered with a yellow abrasive coating that makes it a breeze to get on and off. Very Cool!
http://www.pureoil.com/
http://www.pureoil.com/
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Purolator's 99.9% efficient Pure One oil filters are now covered with a yellow abrasive coating that makes it a breeze to get on and off. Very Cool!
http://www.pureoil.com/
http://www.pureoil.com/
Those are good filters, I'm glad someone else is using that grip coating. Fram uses it but I won't use them for the poor performance. Pure One are rated very good and I like the new coating.
The only drawback I can see is that the coating might insulate heat in more so than a metal finishes.
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Those are good filters, I'm glad someone else is using that grip coating. Fram uses it but I won't use them for the poor performance. Pure One are rated very good and I like the new coating.
The only drawback I can see is that the coating might insulate heat in more so than a metal finishes.
The only drawback I can see is that the coating might insulate heat in more so than a metal finishes.
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i am not sure about car filters but when i was researching which filter to use on my motorcycles i found an articl where they cut open various ones.
Fram was nothing but cardboard glued together.
As a matter of fact it was called "a good example of how not to build a filter"
Fram was nothing but cardboard glued together.
As a matter of fact it was called "a good example of how not to build a filter"
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Fram's internal filtering quality is horrible compared to most other brands. It's similar to not having a filter at all. It's normal for people to use a bad filter and not notice because the wear caused by the lack of filtration is a slow process, but still accelerated from the normal wear of a well filtered oil system.
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Here is some good information on oil filters: http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index.html.
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St. Jude Donor '09
Fram's internal filtering quality is horrible compared to most other brands. It's similar to not having a filter at all. It's normal for people to use a bad filter and not notice because the wear caused by the lack of filtration is a slow process, but still accelerated from the normal wear of a well filtered oil system.
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Here is some good information on oil filters: http://knizefamily.net/minimopar/oilfilters/index.html.
Thanks for that link. Glad to see Quaker State filters are made by Purolator. Use em on my John Deere and mama's 98 Malibu for the last 10 years/150K miles!
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Yep...I know a few guys that run them at the track. Guess what? Fram sends them a check, sponsor money, to pay them to use the filters and show their name off. Guess what else? The parts on those engines see a FRACTION of the use a normal engine sees. The difference in wear between an engine that runs for 30 hours is way different than one that runs 30 years.
I know because I asked specifically why they would use a Fram instead of a higher quality filter even though it's widely known that they are low quality.
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i know that if you research fram filters with the word banned in the google engine you will find that fram was banned for a long time with a lot of motorcycle race organizations.
good enough for me to stay away.
plus look at it this way. go to any vehicle forum and search for fram filters. you will find a lot and i mean a lot of negative feedback.
why risk it.
good enough for me to stay away.
plus look at it this way. go to any vehicle forum and search for fram filters. you will find a lot and i mean a lot of negative feedback.
why risk it.
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St. Jude Donor '09
Yep...I know a few guys that run them at the track. Guess what? Fram sends them a check, sponsor money, to pay them to use the filters and show their name off. Guess what else? The parts on those engines see a FRACTION of the use a normal engine sees. The difference in wear between an engine that runs for 30 hours is way different than one that runs 30 years.
I know because I asked specifically why they would use a Fram instead of a higher quality filter even though it's widely known that they are low quality.
I know because I asked specifically why they would use a Fram instead of a higher quality filter even though it's widely known that they are low quality.
I've been around racers for a little wile and know better. Thanks for your expert explanation anyway
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Lets not forget that pro stuff is a different game altogether. Different filters with different designs. I wouldn't expect a pro team to use the same kind of $4 Fram filter that you or I can walk into an Oreilly and buy for a SBC. If Wix was a sponsor of theirs you would see a Wix filter on their engine. Fram wants to get their name out there just like everyone else and will pay to have them used. The filters on those pro engines are a totally different class of filter.
Take one apart and you'll see the difference. No way will I use a Fram on any engine of mine.
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St. Jude Donor '09
Lets not forget that pro stuff is a different game altogether. Different filters with different designs. I wouldn't expect a pro team to use the same kind of $4 Fram filter that you or I can walk into an Oreilly and buy for a SBC. If Wix was a sponsor of theirs you would see a Wix filter on their engine. Fram wants to get their name out there just like everyone else and will pay to have them used. The filters on those pro engines are a totally different class of filter.
Take one apart and you'll see the difference. No way will I use a Fram on any engine of mine.
Take one apart and you'll see the difference. No way will I use a Fram on any engine of mine.
Then gives us his opinion after initially admitting no technological conclusions should be based on his "experiments".......
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I understand all of that, and I don't use fram filters either, but not for the reasons above. What I tire of is the Internet mythology mill...some guy cuts open a few oil filters, decides that some don't look as good as others and claims this one is junk that one is so so.
Then gives us his opinion after initially admitting no technological conclusions should be based on his "experiments".......
Then gives us his opinion after initially admitting no technological conclusions should be based on his "experiments".......
) It seems to me that if fram were producing that much worse quality filters than everyone else and that this is causing so much damage then they would not still be in business. I have used them on my DD's with (as far as I know ) no ill effects - the main reason I used them was because of the grip - I have also used the purolators , again as far as I know with no damage .It is intreresting that many people will not use a Fram because it is percieved that they are poor quality but will use a K&N air filter which effectively filters less efficiently in order to increase air flow - isn't that effectively a poorer quality air filter?
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Some people will have an opinion based on no substantiated fact. They just want someone to "hear/read" their opinion. Then...they try to present it as fact. I use FRAM and have had absolutely no problems. I have yet to hear anyone here prove a bad filtering experience with any filter...Fram included. I am sure there is an example out there. Just don't present it as fact until you have a legitimate bad experience with one or the other.
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This Fram thing has been around for a long time.
Back in 1966, a large shop owner advised me against using Fram. His reasons were that relief system was poor in the filter and it often was in bypass mode making it ineffective. No more proof than his opinion.
That was over 40 years ago, long before any internet etc.
I just used Wix to error on the safe side. Why take chances.
Back in 1966, a large shop owner advised me against using Fram. His reasons were that relief system was poor in the filter and it often was in bypass mode making it ineffective. No more proof than his opinion.
That was over 40 years ago, long before any internet etc.
I just used Wix to error on the safe side. Why take chances.