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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Need some advice. I am planning on putting on transmission coolers on my 75 and my sons 90. Should I still go thru the rad and any recommendations for best mounting locations. Thanks in Advance.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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I think the best place is in the nose across the openings on the under side that faces the ground. Cool air is forced up those holes by the chin spoiler and it would push all that cool air right through the trans cooler.
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Add the shift kit and forget about it ,that tranny should not really need an add on cooler I would not think. Is it the 400 ? and are you towing or racing them?
One more line to watch and if it gets a hole your on the hook.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Dick...If you do install the trans cooler a lot of people run through the radiator first and then to the cooler. That way you cool the oil a little, then cool it more in the oil cooler. Plumb the return out of the radiator to the oil cooler, then back to the trans.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Ran mine thru the rad then mounted it on the bumper support just behind the license plate grill. You either need to take the hood off or remove the front grill and the bumper bracket. Works very well, reduced engine temp by 4 degrees and it seems to run at a lower RPM at a given speed. I don't think that is right but normally it was around 3200 RPM at 60 MPH now its 2700 at 60.
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Originally Posted by Lon Wayne
Add the shift kit and forget about it ,that tranny should not really need an add on cooler I would not think. Is it the 400 ? and are you towing or racing them?
One more line to watch and if it gets a hole your on the hook.
Both tranny's newly rebuilt with kits. 90 has the 700 R4 and the 75 the 200 4R. Thanks for the replies.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Tranny coolers are a cheap and easy addon/insurance policy. Hook in tandem with your rad cooler and remember....as my wife told me...bigger is better, at least with coolers, put the biggest one in you can fit
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DIPPOLD
Ran mine thru the rad then mounted it on the bumper support just behind the license plate grill. You either need to take the hood off or remove the front grill and the bumper bracket. Works very well, reduced engine temp by 4 degrees and it seems to run at a lower RPM at a given speed. I don't think that is right but normally it was around 3200 RPM at 60 MPH now its 2700 at 60.
WOW ! Thats a 500 rpm drop ! 15 % ! Are you getting better mileage?
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Norby....What do attribute the lower RPM to.
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Cooler is better with Auto Trannys. Anything under 200 and the cooler the better.
I like to eliminate the Radiator from the equasion and run an independant tranny cooler. There is no minimum operating temp like on the engine. Cool it as best you can
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All I had available this summer was a Harley shovelhead oil cooler but it does fit in the nose....my theory was a cooler is a cooler is a cooler.

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Originally Posted by SIXFOOTER
Cooler is better with Auto Trannys. Anything under 200 and the cooler the better.
I like to eliminate the Radiator from the equasion and run an independant tranny cooler. There is no minimum operating temp like on the engine. Cool it as best you can

I think the radiator cooler is a good idea when they don't want to add extra pieces, but the radiator is already hot just like the transmission fluid and I don't see it as all that efficient when compared to a an extremal cooler. In fact, when I bought the DeWitts radiator for my automatic car I got the manual version so I would not have a cooling tank for the transmission on my radiator.
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Originally Posted by Durango_boy
I think the radiator cooler is a good idea when they don't want to add extra pieces, but the radiator is already hot just like the transmission fluid and I don't see it as all that efficient when compared to a an extremal cooler. In fact, when I bought the DeWitts radiator for my automatic car I got the manual version so I would not have a cooling tank for the transmission on my radiator.
Excellent point! I hadn't considered that, when you think about it you make yourself supply a better cooler.
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If you talk to people like BTO you will find that too low of an operating temp can be just as harmful as a high temp. You need to run through the radiator to properly warm up the transmission. I think a cooler is a good idea; just plum it so you go through the radiator just before it goes back into the transmission. That will ensure you are getting to a proper operating temperature.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Theiskell
If you talk to people like BTO you will find that too low of an operating temp can be just as harmful as a high temp. You need to run through the radiator to properly warm up the transmission. I think a cooler is a good idea; just plum it so you go through the radiator just before it goes back into the transmission. That will ensure you are getting to a proper operating temperature.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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If you talk to people like BTO you will find that too low of an operating temp can be just as harmful as a high temp. You need to run through the radiator to properly warm up the transmission. I think a cooler is a good idea; just plum it so you go through the radiator just before it goes back into the transmission. That will ensure you are getting to a proper operating temperature.
Correct answer. Tranny fluid will not operate properly at low temps. The rad cooler is primarily for min. temps. in cold climates. You should ALWAYS have it in line with an aux cooler.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Tranny fluids are designed with specs to run properly in a certain temperature range.
Most petroleum based will run fine down as low as 25° at the proper viscosity to prevent foaming, over relief conditions (contaminants) and pump suction starving which are the primary root causes for failure at low temps. We all know that no tranny does run at that low a temp though.
Synthetics are rated even much lower.

Realistically, there are millions of trannys that never see warmup in freezing temps on daily commute situations in freezing temps with no seeming ill effects.

Other than freezing temps and using a quality fluid, I wouldn't worry too much about the cold just the hot end of the scale.
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Originally Posted by Theiskell
If you talk to people like BTO you will find that too low of an operating temp can be just as harmful as a high temp. You need to run through the radiator to properly warm up the transmission. I think a cooler is a good idea; just plum it so you go through the radiator just before it goes back into the transmission. That will ensure you are getting to a proper operating temperature.
BTO told me the same when I did my trans swap
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Originally Posted by Theiskell
If you talk to people like BTO you will find that too low of an operating temp can be just as harmful as a high temp. You need to run through the radiator to properly warm up the transmission. I think a cooler is a good idea; just plum it so you go through the radiator just before it goes back into the transmission. That will ensure you are getting to a proper operating temperature.
This is absolutely correct. You want to maintain a constant trans fluid temperature and air type coolers cannot do that. They are totally dependant on ambient air which can vary anywhere from 1-100 f. You should also plump the air type first, then warm it back up through the radiator. That way it comes back at the same temp all the time.
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Originally Posted by Tom DeWitt
This is absolutely correct. You want to maintain a constant trans fluid temperature and air type coolers cannot do that. They are totally dependant on ambient air which can vary anywhere from 1-100 f. You should also plump the air type first, then warm it back up through the radiator. That way it comes back at the same temp all the time.
Sounds logical to me. I have a DeWitt's radiator and it does a real good job on it's own.
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