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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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I went to the local BP yesterday and saw on all of the pumps a sticker that said "Contains 10% Ethanol". Those were not there a week ago.

Is that right? Can you run 10% ethanol in a regular car with no modifications? I didn't want to risk it and went to a different station.

Anybody know anything?
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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Most are 10% ethanol. Some are as high as 15%.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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Seasonal fuels are pretty typical.


We put up with them here in NC.


And that "put up with them" means less mileage and higher cost. Who the hell dreamed this one up, we'll never know.....
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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So this is nothing new? I've been running ethanol in my car all along?
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Yes.

Over 15% is where it would start to become a problem for older engines.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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15% is the E85 stuff right.

aka flex fuel
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:23 PM
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No. E85 is 85% ethanol.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarcrazy02
I went to the local BP yesterday and saw on all of the pumps a sticker that said "Contains 10% Ethanol". Those were not there a week ago.

Is that right? Can you run 10% ethanol in a regular car with no modifications? I didn't want to risk it and went to a different station.

Anybody know anything?

Should be no problem unless you have an older original carb that has not been rebuilt. Newer carbs and rebuild kits for older carbs now use neoprene parts for o-rings, etc. and alcohol resistant materials for floats instead of the older rubber and plastic parts which are degraded by alcohol.
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In NJ we get it in mid Oct.-Nov. I don't know how many people get tricked into tune ups that won't do a thing at that time. /:\
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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It's nothing BUT 10% in CT.




Actually, the sign says that it does not contain MORE than 10% ethanol.


But yeah, that's all there is here, no matter where you go.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KTKelly
Seasonal fuels are pretty typical.


We put up with them here in NC.


And that "put up with them" means less mileage and higher cost. Who the hell dreamed this one up, we'll never know.....
The people that came up with this regulation are the people in our government who also own large stocks in oil companies.....



and no, I'm not talking about the current president.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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We have had it here in N.Y. for a long time, it definitely hurts gas mileage.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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NY has been using 10% ethanol for a long time. It's also known as "gasohol" to some. I don't know of any problems, but I'm kinda new to "classic" engines. My father has been running in his 292 inline 6 for years on it and no issues that I know of.
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I don't think it is just a seasonal blend here in Florida. We've had those stickers on the pumps all summer and probably longer. I don't remember when they first showed up.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 07:35 PM
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Most all of the gas stations in the Tampa Bay area have the "contains up to 10% Ethanol" stickers on them now, but I saw a different one at a station yesterday. It read "May contain up to 10% Ethanol. Check with the manufacturer of your equipment before using in anything made in 1985, or earlier". It said "equipment", not "car". Now WTF is that all about?? (Citgo station)

Any petroleum engineers please explain.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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Minnesota is in the heart of ethanol country. Dozens of plants here pumping out millions of gallons of ethanol. Every gallon of gas here has ethanol in it; has for years and years.

I don't know of anyone who has a musclecar or corvette who has had adverse effects versus no lead gas without ethanol. Maybe some others have heard of problems. As for me, my base engine 72 burns it without complaint. My wife's minivan runs on 85 percent ethanol.

Now, whether or not I think it is a good deal; that's a different story.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OURSHARK
We have had it here in N.Y. for a long time, it definitely hurts gas mileage.
When I leave NY on a trip and fill up in mid-america the milage goes up from 18 to about 22 on the daily driver.
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When I leave NY on a trip and fill up in mid-america the milage goes up from 18 to about 22 on the daily driver.
That's strange - here in mid-America we have had gasohol ( 10% except for 85% flex fuel which is more recent) for several years so you really would have a difficult time avoiding ethanol in gas here.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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You can still find 100% gas but you have to look around (and some cities are banning it). Lucky for me though, it seems like a few stations still have 100% gas on the premium only. My grand prix GXP loves that so much more...better gas mileage and performance. The last station inside the Madison, WI city limits just a few weeks ago got rid of the 100% gas on all grades. The owner stated its because the plant he was getting gas from no longer will supply it. The closest plant was close to chicago, so that would kill his pricing to continue to offer it.

My question is this, 10% ethanol is supposed to help pollution, however, because you are using more gas to go the same distance, is it really saving anything? Or is it just putting more money is gas companies pockets?
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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anyone supporting ethonol should be shot...all political hype and about making people money and nothing more. my 2cents only.
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