My corvette story
Instructor
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From: Lisbon Ohio
I would just like to say GREAT inspirational story....
I've heard that insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result....
I think what you did was what a lot of people would have done....see a problem, fix it (or try to), see another problem, fix it again, and again, and again.... eventually everything ends up costing more and being more in depth than we would like, but I admire your persistence and determination.
Just hang in there and like most of the rest of us....once we dump that first $40,000.00 we'll all have cars worth the $15,000.00 we didn't have to buy it in the first place..
Never quit if it makes you happy..(in the end anyway)
I've heard that insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result....
I think what you did was what a lot of people would have done....see a problem, fix it (or try to), see another problem, fix it again, and again, and again.... eventually everything ends up costing more and being more in depth than we would like, but I admire your persistence and determination.
Just hang in there and like most of the rest of us....once we dump that first $40,000.00 we'll all have cars worth the $15,000.00 we didn't have to buy it in the first place..
Never quit if it makes you happy..(in the end anyway)
Burning Brakes
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From: Santa Barbara California
Wow! You are usually "to the point", but this one is really harsh!
Lots of us have done stupid things with cars, I know I sure have. In the end, if the thing is running and I am happy with it, the bad feelings over the mistakes and the hand-wringing over money poorly spent just get smaller and smaller in the rear-view mirror.
Lots of us have done stupid things with cars, I know I sure have. In the end, if the thing is running and I am happy with it, the bad feelings over the mistakes and the hand-wringing over money poorly spent just get smaller and smaller in the rear-view mirror.
It takes some guts to post an honest accounting of their Vette experience here on this forum, with it's many experts, especially for the self-admitted, initially car knowledge challenged. He's learning, persistant, obviously into it, and his experiences closely mirror mine, so I can relate and appreciate his post all the more. Not everyone is born with a wrench in their hand. As for Vettebuyer, I think quite a few of us have watched him mete out blunt, sometimes downright rude remarks like a Grand Poobah of the c3 section. 
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Pro
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From: Albuquerque New Mexico
If I was a 30 y/o starting a new job in a new area, I literally would have crawled into work just to be there; and would have left only at the insistence of the boss!
That's what I'm sayin! Dude - I'm not sure if you have bad luck or if possibly your approach may have something to do with it. Either way I commend your perseverence and hangin in there to get the ride lookin like it does today. I'm sure you learned a lot along they way.
That's what I'm sayin! Dude - I'm not sure if you have bad luck or if possibly your approach may have something to do with it. Either way I commend your perseverence and hangin in there to get the ride lookin like it does today. I'm sure you learned a lot along they way.
Melting Slicks
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From: North Bellmore Ny
St. Jude Donor '09
Well I wasn't hoping to get so many haters out there. I get a laugh out of all the stories and experiences. Yes, I'm an idiot regarding cars, but I admit it and am learning rather quickly. Thanks for all the nice replies from everyone other than Ron R and Vettebuyer5869. To reply to some of the quips posted above:
-These repairs did not all happen at once, they happened several months apart from one another so it didn't seem like an insurmountable task financially or practically to repair each thing along the way.
-I didn't quit my new job for the car; the car contributed to other stresses in my life that the end result was a trip to the hospital for exhaustion, dehydration and anxiety. I had another car to drive during that period and could have waited on picking up the vette....just thought I would make it.
-I got another job within a week that paid about 20% more than the one I had moved for. Oh, and there is no crawling to work when you were as sick as I was and scheduled to work three 14-16 hour shifts in three days. Also, get to live in a better part of town and for less rent than before. I have been to the hospital twice in my entire life and work 70-100 hours/week as it is so it wasn't a matter of work ethic. But yes, I should have taken a cab to work, passed out in the lobby so they knew I was for real about being sick.
-I agree this is a poster story on how not to buy a corvette. That's part of the reason why I posted it. Yes, I could have purchased a truck or a used saturn or just kept driving my 1988 BMW which is still running just fine to this day. But if that is what you think is best then why the hell do you own a corvette? People don't buy these cars as financially practical means of transportation, they are f***ing coolest cars ever (well C3s at least). I want to look good every day, and well, it is hard to justify buying another car and having this sit in the garage 90% of the time...might as well not have one. I could buy a good C5 for 20k, but that would defeat the purpose as well....its not what I want.
-I posted the prices to give everyone an idea of what things cost. I know I spent a bunch of money, I got over it. The way I justified it was that most people here can fix cars and probably have the time to spend doing it on the weekends. I work 6 days a week in 2 different cities and don't have free time to work on the car much. Also, I calculated the amount of time it would take me to learn how to fix something and do it vs paying a mechanic to do it vs working my job that I love overtime and it always works out better for me to pay someone else to do it and work a few extra hours that week. Add up the time you spend working on your cars and multiply that by $60/hr and tell me who has more invested in their car....you or me?
-collectors editions aren't that pretty in my opinion. Also, it didn't make a difference to me...was looking for a cheap vette with ugly paint, didn't care what it was originally. I could make the argument that buying a vette with good paint then stripping it is worse than what I did. Just think, all the remaining collector's editions are worth slightly more as a result of me taking this one away. Also, if someone did want to make it back into a collector's edition, they would have to strip and paint it...just like they would have had to do if they bought this one in the first place. Only thing missing is a broken down motor. I'm not the one who ran the original car into the ground....talk to the a**holes who owned it before me. I could buy an original CE for like 30k (barret jackson last year) with < 10k miles or you can pay like 30 or 40k or more to do a frame off on this one and restore one....lets see what makes more sense? Or, you could just invest the 30k for 30 years then buy a CE and have enough left over to buy a ZR1 also. Bottom line, no one should buy a drivable car as an investment and think they are making a wise decision (lesson learned). Buy a new vette and see how quickly it loses $15k worth of its value...that is just as dumb as what I did. My opinion is to drive it every day and enjoy it rather than have it be a trophy. Everyone is different in that regards.
-I thought about doing the $50 paint job, but then realized it also included like 80 hours of labor and would be covered in rustoleum. Due to the decals and bondo, couldn't just paint over the old stuff. This is where I made a mistake in buying this car....didn't realize how much body work costs. I admit that one... chalk it up to inexperience... but if you want a custom paint job that's what it costs.
-I reached the point where I wanted to live a little every day to make living fun rather than having a boring life.
-I would have invested this money in the stock market otherwise and would have lost like 50% of it due to the economy....might as well throw it away on a vette instead of on nothing!
-First girlfriend was an idiot. New girlfriend apparently likes me for who I am!
-These repairs did not all happen at once, they happened several months apart from one another so it didn't seem like an insurmountable task financially or practically to repair each thing along the way.
-I didn't quit my new job for the car; the car contributed to other stresses in my life that the end result was a trip to the hospital for exhaustion, dehydration and anxiety. I had another car to drive during that period and could have waited on picking up the vette....just thought I would make it.
-I got another job within a week that paid about 20% more than the one I had moved for. Oh, and there is no crawling to work when you were as sick as I was and scheduled to work three 14-16 hour shifts in three days. Also, get to live in a better part of town and for less rent than before. I have been to the hospital twice in my entire life and work 70-100 hours/week as it is so it wasn't a matter of work ethic. But yes, I should have taken a cab to work, passed out in the lobby so they knew I was for real about being sick.
-I agree this is a poster story on how not to buy a corvette. That's part of the reason why I posted it. Yes, I could have purchased a truck or a used saturn or just kept driving my 1988 BMW which is still running just fine to this day. But if that is what you think is best then why the hell do you own a corvette? People don't buy these cars as financially practical means of transportation, they are f***ing coolest cars ever (well C3s at least). I want to look good every day, and well, it is hard to justify buying another car and having this sit in the garage 90% of the time...might as well not have one. I could buy a good C5 for 20k, but that would defeat the purpose as well....its not what I want.
-I posted the prices to give everyone an idea of what things cost. I know I spent a bunch of money, I got over it. The way I justified it was that most people here can fix cars and probably have the time to spend doing it on the weekends. I work 6 days a week in 2 different cities and don't have free time to work on the car much. Also, I calculated the amount of time it would take me to learn how to fix something and do it vs paying a mechanic to do it vs working my job that I love overtime and it always works out better for me to pay someone else to do it and work a few extra hours that week. Add up the time you spend working on your cars and multiply that by $60/hr and tell me who has more invested in their car....you or me?
-collectors editions aren't that pretty in my opinion. Also, it didn't make a difference to me...was looking for a cheap vette with ugly paint, didn't care what it was originally. I could make the argument that buying a vette with good paint then stripping it is worse than what I did. Just think, all the remaining collector's editions are worth slightly more as a result of me taking this one away. Also, if someone did want to make it back into a collector's edition, they would have to strip and paint it...just like they would have had to do if they bought this one in the first place. Only thing missing is a broken down motor. I'm not the one who ran the original car into the ground....talk to the a**holes who owned it before me. I could buy an original CE for like 30k (barret jackson last year) with < 10k miles or you can pay like 30 or 40k or more to do a frame off on this one and restore one....lets see what makes more sense? Or, you could just invest the 30k for 30 years then buy a CE and have enough left over to buy a ZR1 also. Bottom line, no one should buy a drivable car as an investment and think they are making a wise decision (lesson learned). Buy a new vette and see how quickly it loses $15k worth of its value...that is just as dumb as what I did. My opinion is to drive it every day and enjoy it rather than have it be a trophy. Everyone is different in that regards.
-I thought about doing the $50 paint job, but then realized it also included like 80 hours of labor and would be covered in rustoleum. Due to the decals and bondo, couldn't just paint over the old stuff. This is where I made a mistake in buying this car....didn't realize how much body work costs. I admit that one... chalk it up to inexperience... but if you want a custom paint job that's what it costs.
-I reached the point where I wanted to live a little every day to make living fun rather than having a boring life.
-I would have invested this money in the stock market otherwise and would have lost like 50% of it due to the economy....might as well throw it away on a vette instead of on nothing!
-First girlfriend was an idiot. New girlfriend apparently likes me for who I am!
Drifting
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From: Los Gatos CA
We all have too much money in our cars. If not, you are not doing it right. Probably the only difference between my car and your car is mine is a 68 L36 Roadster. But I bought it when they were cheap, so our stories really are similar. I paid $12K and have about $40K into it. And have I ever learned a lot! Enjoy your car. Something tells me you will have own many more and you will keep our hobby alive.
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Definitely harsh, maybe too harsh. I'll elaborate below. However, I'll have to admit making most of the same mistakes he made at some point.
Reasonable observation, and I've likely been guilty of being a contrarian in some instances, but not correct in this case. I stuck up for the poster you mention against all the guys ripping on him because he just crashed his Corvette and I saw no reason for people to keep piling on him. I felt bad for the guy, even though he was wrong. He knew he was wrong.
I likely wouldn't have posted here at all and kept my reaction to the thread to myself except for one part. In this case, while its easy to feel bad for the OP, I had a hard time getting past this part of his "story":
Cop gives me a ticket for no tail lights and no insurance and tell me that I could potentially have other violations with the no dash thing; but I assured him everyhing else was working fine, just cosmetic. Cop was filling out the ticket and actually asked me: "what year car" followed by "what make?" to which I replied...its a corvette. He said "no, that is the model, what make?" I paused, humored him in a slow voice and said Chev-ro-let makes Cor-vettes. I think he was just messing with me to see my reaction since he was white, male, middle aged, and pulled over cars for a living.
This is where he (the OP) lost me. I know he's got his own problems, but his obnoxious punk attitude re: the cop caused me to stick up for the cop here, and the harshness in my single post was easy at that point.
There's also an undercurrent of posters on the CF in various generations who absolutely despise cops, and I tend to take them on pretty regularly. This was no exception.
So, while the post was pretty nasty, I won't be apologizing for responding to uncalled for remarks against LEOs on here any time soon.
Let the Poobah throw you one little piece of advice, RR. There's a handful of posters on CF that absolutely send me up the wall, just as Im sure I do for you. You are not alone. Learn to operate the "IGNORE" function on your Control Panel, and life becomes far more tolerable.
I likely wouldn't have posted here at all and kept my reaction to the thread to myself except for one part. In this case, while its easy to feel bad for the OP, I had a hard time getting past this part of his "story":
Cop gives me a ticket for no tail lights and no insurance and tell me that I could potentially have other violations with the no dash thing; but I assured him everyhing else was working fine, just cosmetic. Cop was filling out the ticket and actually asked me: "what year car" followed by "what make?" to which I replied...its a corvette. He said "no, that is the model, what make?" I paused, humored him in a slow voice and said Chev-ro-let makes Cor-vettes. I think he was just messing with me to see my reaction since he was white, male, middle aged, and pulled over cars for a living.
This is where he (the OP) lost me. I know he's got his own problems, but his obnoxious punk attitude re: the cop caused me to stick up for the cop here, and the harshness in my single post was easy at that point.
There's also an undercurrent of posters on the CF in various generations who absolutely despise cops, and I tend to take them on pretty regularly. This was no exception.
So, while the post was pretty nasty, I won't be apologizing for responding to uncalled for remarks against LEOs on here any time soon.
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St. Jude Donor '13-'15, '17 thru '22
This is where he (the OP) lost me. I know he's got his own problems, but his obnoxious punk attitude re: the cop caused me to stick up for the cop here, and the harshness in my single post was easy at that point.
There's also an undercurrent of posters on the CF in various generations who absolutely despise cops, and I tend to take them on pretty regularly. This was no exception.
So, while the post was pretty nasty, I won't be apologizing for responding to uncalled for remarks against LEOs on here any time soon.
There's also an undercurrent of posters on the CF in various generations who absolutely despise cops, and I tend to take them on pretty regularly. This was no exception.
So, while the post was pretty nasty, I won't be apologizing for responding to uncalled for remarks against LEOs on here any time soon.
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From: Huntsville AL
I admire your persistance in persuing your dream car. You have learned a lot of valuable lessons along the way. Enjoy your car, your new girlfriend, your new job, and keep us posted on the car as things progress.
Pro
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From: Platteville WI
You should forward that story to Readers Digest, Corvette Magazine, local paper, etc... I think it's a great read.
I hope your persistence and positive attitude overcome your bad luck. Someone once said that "luck is where preparation meets opportunity".
Jay
I hope your persistence and positive attitude overcome your bad luck. Someone once said that "luck is where preparation meets opportunity".
Jay
Terrorizing Orange Cones
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From: Northern CO
Your path has been long and painful; I wish you better days ahead. Thanks for sharing your Vette story. It is not unlike many of us here and glad you made it through the fire. Sounds like you've learned more than just deciding how to support your ride and hope that works well for you.
Enjoy the car and keep us posted on new experiences.
Good Luck.
Enjoy the car and keep us posted on new experiences.
Good Luck.
Instructor
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Medford NY
Wow, that was one heck of a post. Took me a half hour to get through it. It sure does make me have an even greater apprecaition for my 82 CE. Which, by the way, I paid 14.5k for 8 years ago and haven't put a penny into it. (Knock on fiberglass) Its not a daily driver, and I don't worry too much about some minor problems, but I think I like my story a lot better than yours. Good luck even though I too hate to see a collectors edition converted..
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From: Canberra Australia
I likely wouldn't have posted here at all and kept my reaction to the thread to myself except for one part. In this case, while its easy to feel bad for the OP, I had a hard time getting past this part of his "story":
Cop gives me a ticket for no tail lights and no insurance and tell me that I could potentially have other violations with the no dash thing; but I assured him everyhing else was working fine, just cosmetic. Cop was filling out the ticket and actually asked me: "what year car" followed by "what make?" to which I replied...its a corvette. He said "no, that is the model, what make?" I paused, humored him in a slow voice and said Chev-ro-let makes Cor-vettes. I think he was just messing with me to see my reaction since he was white, male, middle aged, and pulled over cars for a living.
This is where he (the OP) lost me. I know he's got his own problems, but his obnoxious punk attitude re: the cop caused me to stick up for the cop here, and the harshness in my single post was easy at that point.
There's also an undercurrent of posters on the CF in various generations who absolutely despise cops, and I tend to take them on pretty regularly. This was no exception.
So, while the post was pretty nasty, I won't be apologizing for responding to uncalled for remarks against LEOs on here any time soon.
I was really enjoying this thread till the part Vettebuyer mentioned and I must say, I totally agree with his comments. I am a LEO in Australia and if I received this kind of attitude then I can assure you that my ticket and defect books would have been running hot. A positive attitude goes a long way - you got very lucky. Any self respecting cop doesn't pull someone over for no reason and you seem to have plenty of reasons. Everyone has their right to their opinion, but if your intent is to bash people who are just trying to to their job, then keep it to yourself so not to offend people from ALL parts of the world. That's my opinion.
I will say that I do truly enjoy reading CF and will continue to do so. If I have offended people, I do apologise, but I am proud of what I do for a living.
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Heel & Toe
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In regards to the cop, I guess I found it utterly amazing that a red blooded american (not to mention someone with a career related to automobiles) does not know who makes corvettes. The thought of that is ridiculous. Why not just fill out the paperwork instead of asking me?
I guess I don't know why, but I figured he was trying to antagonize me. I honestly thought he was joking so I replied in an amazed/questioning sort of tone, not a smart alec tone as readers may have perceived. I guess I should have written "Chev-ro-let?....makes Cor-vettes?" It wasn't meant to be disrespectful rather looking for confirmation that he was serious.
You are right though, I can be a jerk and if I had time to think it over I probably would have been cockier and just said.... "R u joking? You pull cars over for a living and if you don't know which company makes corvettes then I'm not going to tell you." That would have pissed him off good.
If you drive a sports car, then cops are your enemy in that instance.... pure cat/mouse. I respect cops otherwise and what they do, just thought the question was silly.
Ho
I guess I don't know why, but I figured he was trying to antagonize me. I honestly thought he was joking so I replied in an amazed/questioning sort of tone, not a smart alec tone as readers may have perceived. I guess I should have written "Chev-ro-let?....makes Cor-vettes?" It wasn't meant to be disrespectful rather looking for confirmation that he was serious.
You are right though, I can be a jerk and if I had time to think it over I probably would have been cockier and just said.... "R u joking? You pull cars over for a living and if you don't know which company makes corvettes then I'm not going to tell you." That would have pissed him off good.
If you drive a sports car, then cops are your enemy in that instance.... pure cat/mouse. I respect cops otherwise and what they do, just thought the question was silly.
Ho
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St. Jude Donor '13-'15, '17 thru '22
One thing to think about: you see there are numerous cops who post on this board, I assume most or all of them own Corvettes. Do you think they spend all of their time in their cars noodling around in second gear?
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As far as the disrespecting police officer thing goes - let's keep it real - all officers aren't raised by good parents and they periodically have a bad day. I'm sure we've all come accross an officer at some point who was a complete jerk - I doubt anyone can deny that. So before we crucify, consider that it's not unfathomable that this could potentially be the case. I do respect police officers very much until the point that I realize they do not respect me and feel like they are somehow better. Officers of the law also need to respect the people they serve which many times is not the case. My best friend's sister was beat up in front of her house by two male cops, I've seen cops lie in court and arrest people w/o cause - these things happen every day. I suppose dealing with lots of idiots on a daily basis leaves a bad taste in an officers mouth and at times can make them defiant like anyone else. Other times you have people enter the force who are also complete idiots, picked on in highschool and come back with a badge and a vengence - I'm sure we've all witnessed several of these types. I'm not sayin this to come down on the officers or to defend anyone but just sayin respect needs to flow both ways. Where I live there are some real "Roscos" who drive like idiots playing games with each other in their cars and disturbing and endangering the peace as they play chase. It's literally a scary thing that my wife and I routinely witness. There are also several real stellar officers who I highly respect and would want on my side in a dangerous situation - one of which was shot during a routine traffic stop & killed by a psycho idiot so I can empathize with the officers having a chip on their shoulder to a large degree when pulling someone over. That said - we need to give them our respect when being pulled over. I think what it boils down tois police officers need to respect citizens and vise versa but based on past personal experiences can be difficult for either side. Usually though if you give respect, you get it back. That's how it should be.
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In regards to the cop, I guess I found it utterly amazing that a red blooded american (not to mention someone with a career related to automobiles) does not know who makes corvettes. The thought of that is ridiculous. Why not just fill out the paperwork instead of asking me?
I guess I don't know why, but I figured he was trying to antagonize me. I honestly thought he was joking so I replied in an amazed/questioning sort of tone, not a smart alec tone as readers may have perceived. I guess I should have written "Chev-ro-let?....makes Cor-vettes?" It wasn't meant to be disrespectful rather looking for confirmation that he was serious.
You are right though, I can be a jerk and if I had time to think it over I probably would have been cockier and just said.... "R u joking? You pull cars over for a living and if you don't know which company makes corvettes then I'm not going to tell you." That would have pissed him off good.
If you drive a sports car, then cops are your enemy in that instance.... pure cat/mouse. I respect cops otherwise and what they do, just thought the question was silly.
Ho
I guess I don't know why, but I figured he was trying to antagonize me. I honestly thought he was joking so I replied in an amazed/questioning sort of tone, not a smart alec tone as readers may have perceived. I guess I should have written "Chev-ro-let?....makes Cor-vettes?" It wasn't meant to be disrespectful rather looking for confirmation that he was serious.
You are right though, I can be a jerk and if I had time to think it over I probably would have been cockier and just said.... "R u joking? You pull cars over for a living and if you don't know which company makes corvettes then I'm not going to tell you." That would have pissed him off good.
If you drive a sports car, then cops are your enemy in that instance.... pure cat/mouse. I respect cops otherwise and what they do, just thought the question was silly.
Ho
Its interesting that my nasty response to Mr Corvette Owner drew some pained responses... poor kid who apparently "didn't know any better" regarding his brilliant choices... but a cop who just might not know a frigging thing about Corvettes is an idiot and worthy of scorn. Beautiful.
By the way, I'd owed several Corvettes before I was shipped off to the police academy, and I never considered police as "the enemy."
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I went through a similar situation with a 84 Z28 that i got for free not counting the over due license, towing and city storage and fines. Not anywhere near all the problems you had but i put about $4500 in it. I was lucky enough that I drove it to work every week day for 5 years with just normal things going wrong like brakes, alternator ect. It was still running good when i sold it and a beautiful 82 Silverado to buy my 81 Vette.
I asked allot of question and could tell by the looks and his answers that he was as much of a perfectionist as i am as far as maintenance as i am.
Never ever buy a car that has been let go to sh*t like this car had.
On my 81 all i have done or need to do is a few paint flaws, modern radio, auto antenna that stopped working. I need to get the engine steam cleaned, Tire because even though they have allot of tread they are about 9 years old. With a few more cosmetic items as good as it runs I'll be happy but now that i'm retired do to a very bad back i can't afford to have a Vette shop do any work needed.
I would have sold that car and bought one similar to the one i got because from 2 feet away it look like new.
Good luck to ya buddy but with all the money you spent and the aggravation you went through you must have the patience of Jobe.
How much money would you estimate you have in that car? I must have missed it but what year is the car? I really feel for ya and you either really like that car or you are very persistent.
This is my 84 Z28 below.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...03170910ShhAnd
I asked allot of question and could tell by the looks and his answers that he was as much of a perfectionist as i am as far as maintenance as i am.
Never ever buy a car that has been let go to sh*t like this car had.
On my 81 all i have done or need to do is a few paint flaws, modern radio, auto antenna that stopped working. I need to get the engine steam cleaned, Tire because even though they have allot of tread they are about 9 years old. With a few more cosmetic items as good as it runs I'll be happy but now that i'm retired do to a very bad back i can't afford to have a Vette shop do any work needed.
I would have sold that car and bought one similar to the one i got because from 2 feet away it look like new.
Good luck to ya buddy but with all the money you spent and the aggravation you went through you must have the patience of Jobe.
How much money would you estimate you have in that car? I must have missed it but what year is the car? I really feel for ya and you either really like that car or you are very persistent.
This is my 84 Z28 below.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo...03170910ShhAnd
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