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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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I have a 75 and after turning the ignition off the tach slowly goes up to about 5k and stays there .
I thought I had A problem with some Voltage so I Un-Hooked the Battery and the tach stayed in the same place .
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As soon as I start the car it works like normal.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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The tach on my '77 does the same thing....or close. It jumps up to 4-5-6k when I turn the ignition off. When I turn the key back to "on" it drops back down to 0. The tach works normally when the engine is running.

Some please correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is common and relatively normal. I believe it has to do with the tach being electronicly driven, and it gets a voltage spike when you shut off the engine and jumps up there.

I, being the **** retentive person I am...lol, after I shut off the engine, I turn the key back to on...let the tach. needle settle back to 0...then turn the key back to off. The needle stays on 0 and I can move on...lol

Bobby

I know I am a bit insane...but I have accepted it... LOL

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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I think it may be normal but check item #9 below concerning re-zeroing a rebuilt tach. It's possible that yours was rebuilt once and never was calibrated. This came from Corvette Magazine.com. I hope th is helps a little!


The two instruments that Corvette drivers pay the most attention to are the tachometer and the speedometer. The tachometer lets you know how the engine is performing. An inaccurate reading can lead to major problems such as rods and pistons exiting out of the side of the block. A speedometer that isn't working correctly can lead to an up close and personal visit with a Highway Patrolman. Lets face it, neither of these two problems are an enjoyable experience. The symptoms of tachometer problems are: A sticking needle, The tach will not register above a certain RPM, Sometimes the tach works correctly, sometimes it does not, The needle does not return to zero when the ignition is turned on, The needle jumps radically or fluctuates, or the tach just does not work at all. The speedometer has similar symptoms: The needle fluctuates, sticks in one position, Will not return to zero, Will not register past a certain speed, Reads slow or fast, The odometer does not register or it also just does not work. All of the problems can be corrected by making one phone call to Zip Products, Inc., 8067 Fast Lane, Mechanicsville, VA 23111, (800) 962-9632. They can supply all of the needed parts to rebuild or replace your tachometer and speedometer Our Project 77's speedometer and tachometer both needed repairs. Since this was the case, we decided to do them both. You will not need any special tools to do the repair but you will need patience. It should take the average home restorer a weekend to complete the project. If you have to repair or replace one of the instruments, it is a good idea to make sure you will not have to do the other one. The reason I say this is because you will have to take the entire dash and driver's instrument cluster out of the car, so you want to do this repair once .... not again at a later date. Now let's get started!
01: Here are the items we received from Zip for our project: The tachometer, speedometer, a tachometer circuit board, speedometer cable retaining clip, gauge needle, gauge lenses, gauge seal and a trip odometer reset ****. You will also need some hand tools, semi-gloss black spray paint, 1/8"masking tape, and a shop manual for your year Corvette.
02: Start by disconnecting the battery. Now remove all of the windshield garnish mouldings. Remove the console side panels and loosen the center console gauge cluster. If your car has air conditioning, remove the driver's side lower A/C duct. Lie on the driver's side floor and look up behind the instrument cluster. Disconnect the tachometer and speedometer cables. Now disconnect all of the light sockets that you can reach.
03: Loosen the right lower dash cover retaining screws and then carefully remove it from the car. The A/C duct, if so equipped, will also have to be removed.
04: The upper dash pad retaining screws should be removed. Now carefully remove the upper pad.
05: The steering column retaining nuts can now be removed. This will allow you to push the column down. Remove the left lower dash pad retaining screws and carefully pull the pad out away from the dash. Tilt the pad so that you can disconnect any sockets that you could not reach before. Push the steering column down and then carefully remove the pad and cluster from the car.
06: Lay the lower dash face down and remove the tachometer metal back retaining screws. Mark the location of each screw because there are different lengths.
07: With the metal back removed, you will see the tachometer circuit board. The tachometer became an electric instrument in 1975 and its function is controlled by this circuit board. After 20+ years, these boards have a tendency to go bad and usually get hot and burn in one area. If you look closely in this picture you may be able to see a dark area. This is where our circuit board had burned which caused the tach to work erratically.
08: This is the new replacement board from Zip. It is smaller in size but does the same job as the original. If you want to keep your original tach, just replace the circuit board. This circuit board is good for both the L82 and L48. Since the face of our Project 77's tach was extremely faded, we decided to replace the whole unit. Our 77 has an L82 in it but the only new tachometer that is available is for the L48. The only difference in the two tachs is the redline. The L48's is lower. Since the owner of our Project 77 shifts at over 6000 RPMs most of the time, the redline didn't make much of a difference. If your car has the L82 and you want to keep it original, you will have to replace the circuit board and use the existing tach face. If it doesn't make any difference, then you can purchase a complete new L48 tachometer.
09: When replacing the circuit board, re-use all of the original nuts. The nuts will go on the solder side of the circuit board. The terminals are all marked. Make sure all of the connections are made correctly. If they are reversed, the tach will be burned out and that means purchasing another board. The tach needle will need to be re-zeroed on any 75 or 76 Corvette. If it is not, it will read about 3000 RPMs off. To do this, carefully remove the needle. Set the tach up so that you can apply 12 volts and a ground to the correct terminals on the back of the tach. Apply 12 volts to the tach. Now re-install the needle at 0. Carefully remove the 12 volt connections. Now the tach is zeroed. On 1977 models, there is no need to re-zero the tach but if you re-use your old unit, you may want to install a new needle. Carefully pull the old needle off using your thumb and forefinger. Then install the new needle as per the instruction for your year Corvette. Sometimes when removing the needle, the shaft will get stuck and pull up. If this happens, push the shaft back in a little so it is free. Then re-install the needle. Note the adjusting screw on the resistor is not for zeroing the tach. Before re-installing the tachometer you may want to pre-test it. Connect the tach to the wiring harness. Make sure your three connections are correct. + is 12 volts. - is negative or ground and coil. Re-connect your battery. Turn the key to the on position. The tach needle should point to zero. If it does not or does not move, the problem could be in the distributor or the wire coming from the distributor. You may also have the tach connection reversed. If this happened, then you will need another new board. Now disconnect the tach and battery and continue with the rebuild.
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10: The speedo replacement is very simple. Remove the retaining screws. Again make a note which one goes where and replace the entire speedometer. It is also a good idea to check the operation of the trip odometer reset cable. Lube the cable so its movement is free. Remember, in most Corvettes, this cable has a severe bend and lubing it will help free its movement.
11: We wanted to freshen up our lense bezels so we removed them. On disassembly you will notice these small rubber pads between the gauge lense and the bezel. These are small anti-rattle pads. They keep the lense from rattling against the bezel. To freshen up the black painted area on the bezels and housing, start by cleaning them. Now use 600 grit or a fine scuff pad to scuff the black painted surfaces. Do not remove the black paint. By leaving it and just scuffing it, you can use it as a primer base. Now take 1/8" masking tape and tape the chrome outer lip of the bezel. Spray the black surfaces with a semi-gloss black. When it is done, remove the tape. Now you have gauge bezels and housings that look new.
12: Install the lense gasket, lense and anti-rattle pads onto the housing.
13: Now re-install the bezels into the lower dash assembly. Then place the lense and housing onto the bezels and tighten into place. Note: You will notice that we marked the bezels R and L. Even though they are the same, we wanted to re-install them into their original locations.
14: Before you re-install the metal backs onto the tach and speedometer, make sure you replace the warning light socket gaskets. These are also available from Zip.
15: You can now re-install the speedometer and tachometer into their respective housings. Re-install the metal backs. Make sure that you put the metal speedometer cable retaining clip onto the speedometer shaft. Without this clip, the speedometer cable will not stay attached.
16: Connect and attach the trip odometer cable. Make sure it operates correctly before you move on. We also installed a new reset rubber **** on the trip odometer cable.
17: Here is our instrument cluster assembly ready for installation into the lower dash.
18: Lube the speedometer cable before you connect it to the speedometer. Sometimes an erratic speedometer can be attributed to a dry speedo cable. The cable can be pulled completely out of the housing and then greased. Use either white grease or wheel bearing grease to lube it thoroughly.
19: With the lower dash cluster removed, replace all of the dash bulbs. These are a common auto parts store item and are also available from Zip. The bulb number is located on the socket end. It is much easier to replace them now then when the dash cluster is re-installed. Trust Me!
20: The instrument cluster and lower dash is now ready to be re-installed into the car.
21: Start the re-installation by tying the dash harness up as high as possible. This will allow you to slip the instrument cluster below it as you re-install it. Carefully lower the dash cluster into place. Remember to push the steering column down to help installation. Make sure that you get the lower dash pad behind the center console.
22: Now with the dash unit laying in place, connect all of the sockets and wiring that you can. Again, this is much easier than lying on your back working from under the dash. Also connect the speedometer cable.
23: When all of the connections are made on the driver's side, place the lower dash into place and re-install the screws that hold it in place.
24: Now replace the upper dash pad, right lower dash pad, steering column and cover, console side covers, all windshield garnish mouldings and re-connect the battery. Start the car and check the operation of all the gauges. Test drive the car and check the speedometer. Also, do not forget to turn on the lights and check the dash bulb connection. If you did everything right, you should be all set to go for another 20 years!
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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It's normal. I bought my Vette new & it's done this since day one....
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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I think it may be normal but check item #9 below concerning re-zeroing a rebuilt tach. It's possible that yours was rebuilt once and never was calibrated. This came from Corvette Magazine.com. I hope th is helps a little!


The two instruments that Corvette drivers pay the most attention to are the tachometer and the speedometer. The tachometer lets you know how the engine is performing. An inaccurate reading can lead to major problems such as rods and pistons exiting out of the side of the block. A speedometer that isn't working correctly can lead to an up close and personal visit with a Highway Patrolman. Lets face it, neither of these two problems are an enjoyable experience. The symptoms of tachometer problems are: A sticking needle, The tach will not register above a certain RPM, Sometimes the tach works correctly, sometimes it does not, The needle does not return to zero when the ignition is turned on, The needle jumps radically or fluctuates, or the tach just does not work at all. The speedometer has similar symptoms: The needle fluctuates, sticks in one position, Will not return to zero, Will not register past a certain speed, Reads slow or fast, The odometer does not register or it also just does not work. All of the problems can be corrected by making one phone call to Zip Products, Inc., 8067 Fast Lane, Mechanicsville, VA 23111, (800) 962-9632. They can supply all of the needed parts to rebuild or replace your tachometer and speedometer Our Project 77's speedometer and tachometer both needed repairs. Since this was the case, we decided to do them both. You will not need any special tools to do the repair but you will need patience. It should take the average home restorer a weekend to complete the project. If you have to repair or replace one of the instruments, it is a good idea to make sure you will not have to do the other one. The reason I say this is because you will have to take the entire dash and driver's instrument cluster out of the car, so you want to do this repair once .... not again at a later date. Now let's get started!
01: Here are the items we received from Zip for our project: The tachometer, speedometer, a tachometer circuit board, speedometer cable retaining clip, gauge needle, gauge lenses, gauge seal and a trip odometer reset ****. You will also need some hand tools, semi-gloss black spray paint, 1/8"masking tape, and a shop manual for your year Corvette.
02: Start by disconnecting the battery. Now remove all of the windshield garnish mouldings. Remove the console side panels and loosen the center console gauge cluster. If your car has air conditioning, remove the driver's side lower A/C duct. Lie on the driver's side floor and look up behind the instrument cluster. Disconnect the tachometer and speedometer cables. Now disconnect all of the light sockets that you can reach.
03: Loosen the right lower dash cover retaining screws and then carefully remove it from the car. The A/C duct, if so equipped, will also have to be removed.
04: The upper dash pad retaining screws should be removed. Now carefully remove the upper pad.
05: The steering column retaining nuts can now be removed. This will allow you to push the column down. Remove the left lower dash pad retaining screws and carefully pull the pad out away from the dash. Tilt the pad so that you can disconnect any sockets that you could not reach before. Push the steering column down and then carefully remove the pad and cluster from the car.
06: Lay the lower dash face down and remove the tachometer metal back retaining screws. Mark the location of each screw because there are different lengths.
07: With the metal back removed, you will see the tachometer circuit board. The tachometer became an electric instrument in 1975 and its function is controlled by this circuit board. After 20+ years, these boards have a tendency to go bad and usually get hot and burn in one area. If you look closely in this picture you may be able to see a dark area. This is where our circuit board had burned which caused the tach to work erratically.
08: This is the new replacement board from Zip. It is smaller in size but does the same job as the original. If you want to keep your original tach, just replace the circuit board. This circuit board is good for both the L82 and L48. Since the face of our Project 77's tach was extremely faded, we decided to replace the whole unit. Our 77 has an L82 in it but the only new tachometer that is available is for the L48. The only difference in the two tachs is the redline. The L48's is lower. Since the owner of our Project 77 shifts at over 6000 RPMs most of the time, the redline didn't make much of a difference. If your car has the L82 and you want to keep it original, you will have to replace the circuit board and use the existing tach face. If it doesn't make any difference, then you can purchase a complete new L48 tachometer.
09: When replacing the circuit board, re-use all of the original nuts. The nuts will go on the solder side of the circuit board. The terminals are all marked. Make sure all of the connections are made correctly. If they are reversed, the tach will be burned out and that means purchasing another board. The tach needle will need to be re-zeroed on any 75 or 76 Corvette. If it is not, it will read about 3000 RPMs off. To do this, carefully remove the needle. Set the tach up so that you can apply 12 volts and a ground to the correct terminals on the back of the tach. Apply 12 volts to the tach. Now re-install the needle at 0. Carefully remove the 12 volt connections. Now the tach is zeroed. On 1977 models, there is no need to re-zero the tach but if you re-use your old unit, you may want to install a new needle. Carefully pull the old needle off using your thumb and forefinger. Then install the new needle as per the instruction for your year Corvette. Sometimes when removing the needle, the shaft will get stuck and pull up. If this happens, push the shaft back in a little so it is free. Then re-install the needle. Note the adjusting screw on the resistor is not for zeroing the tach. Before re-installing the tachometer you may want to pre-test it. Connect the tach to the wiring harness. Make sure your three connections are correct. + is 12 volts. - is negative or ground and coil. Re-connect your battery. Turn the key to the on position. The tach needle should point to zero. If it does not or does not move, the problem could be in the distributor or the wire coming from the distributor. You may also have the tach connection reversed. If this happened, then you will need another new board. Now disconnect the tach and battery and continue with the rebuild.
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10: The speedo replacement is very simple. Remove the retaining screws. Again make a note which one goes where and replace the entire speedometer. It is also a good idea to check the operation of the trip odometer reset cable. Lube the cable so its movement is free. Remember, in most Corvettes, this cable has a severe bend and lubing it will help free its movement.
11: We wanted to freshen up our lense bezels so we removed them. On disassembly you will notice these small rubber pads between the gauge lense and the bezel. These are small anti-rattle pads. They keep the lense from rattling against the bezel. To freshen up the black painted area on the bezels and housing, start by cleaning them. Now use 600 grit or a fine scuff pad to scuff the black painted surfaces. Do not remove the black paint. By leaving it and just scuffing it, you can use it as a primer base. Now take 1/8" masking tape and tape the chrome outer lip of the bezel. Spray the black surfaces with a semi-gloss black. When it is done, remove the tape. Now you have gauge bezels and housings that look new.
12: Install the lense gasket, lense and anti-rattle pads onto the housing.
13: Now re-install the bezels into the lower dash assembly. Then place the lense and housing onto the bezels and tighten into place. Note: You will notice that we marked the bezels R and L. Even though they are the same, we wanted to re-install them into their original locations.
14: Before you re-install the metal backs onto the tach and speedometer, make sure you replace the warning light socket gaskets. These are also available from Zip.
15: You can now re-install the speedometer and tachometer into their respective housings. Re-install the metal backs. Make sure that you put the metal speedometer cable retaining clip onto the speedometer shaft. Without this clip, the speedometer cable will not stay attached.
16: Connect and attach the trip odometer cable. Make sure it operates correctly before you move on. We also installed a new reset rubber **** on the trip odometer cable.
17: Here is our instrument cluster assembly ready for installation into the lower dash.
18: Lube the speedometer cable before you connect it to the speedometer. Sometimes an erratic speedometer can be attributed to a dry speedo cable. The cable can be pulled completely out of the housing and then greased. Use either white grease or wheel bearing grease to lube it thoroughly.
19: With the lower dash cluster removed, replace all of the dash bulbs. These are a common auto parts store item and are also available from Zip. The bulb number is located on the socket end. It is much easier to replace them now then when the dash cluster is re-installed. Trust Me!
20: The instrument cluster and lower dash is now ready to be re-installed into the car.
21: Start the re-installation by tying the dash harness up as high as possible. This will allow you to slip the instrument cluster below it as you re-install it. Carefully lower the dash cluster into place. Remember to push the steering column down to help installation. Make sure that you get the lower dash pad behind the center console.
22: Now with the dash unit laying in place, connect all of the sockets and wiring that you can. Again, this is much easier than lying on your back working from under the dash. Also connect the speedometer cable.
23: When all of the connections are made on the driver's side, place the lower dash into place and re-install the screws that hold it in place.
24: Now replace the upper dash pad, right lower dash pad, steering column and cover, console side covers, all windshield garnish mouldings and re-connect the battery. Start the car and check the operation of all the gauges. Test drive the car and check the speedometer. Also, do not forget to turn on the lights and check the dash bulb connection. If you did everything right, you should be all set to go for another 20 years!
OVERKILL!!!! It's common and nothing to get worried about
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It's normal. I bought my Vette new & it's done this since day one....
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OVERKILL!!!! It's common and nothing to get worried about
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Mine does exactly the same. I think I might have a more extreme version of this - sometimes when I turn engine off, it doesn't just go up to 4 or 5, it goes to the very end and won't go back to zero when I turn ignition back on. So I start the engine and rev it a bit which pulls the tachometer back to work. It happens rarely that I have to do it, but it does happen. I also had it happen to the oil pressure gauge - it's stuck at the very right end position and just randomly fixes itself. Only happened twice so far I think and lasted each time just several minutes.
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