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From: Holland MI
I buy it in my oil. It comes pre-mixed.
All I have to look for is the CJ-4 notation on the upper part of the "donut" logo shown below on the left and I know I'm good to go.
The beauty is that they sell this pre-mixed oil anywhere from Wal-Mart to Autozone, and it has enough ZDDP for any of our older engines.
All I have to look for is the CJ-4 notation on the upper part of the "donut" logo shown below on the left and I know I'm good to go.
The beauty is that they sell this pre-mixed oil anywhere from Wal-Mart to Autozone, and it has enough ZDDP for any of our older engines.
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I buy it in my oil. It comes pre-mixed.
All I have to look for is the CJ-4 notation on the upper part of the "donut" logo shown below on the left and I know I'm good to go.
The beauty is that they sell this pre-mixed oil anywhere from Wal-Mart to Autozone, and it has enough ZDDP for any of our older engines.
All I have to look for is the CJ-4 notation on the upper part of the "donut" logo shown below on the left and I know I'm good to go.
The beauty is that they sell this pre-mixed oil anywhere from Wal-Mart to Autozone, and it has enough ZDDP for any of our older engines.
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From: Rockledge FL
I buy it in my oil. It comes pre-mixed.
All I have to look for is the CJ-4 notation on the upper part of the "donut" logo shown below on the left and I know I'm good to go.
The beauty is that they sell this pre-mixed oil anywhere from Wal-Mart to Autozone, and it has enough ZDDP for any of our older engines.
All I have to look for is the CJ-4 notation on the upper part of the "donut" logo shown below on the left and I know I'm good to go.
The beauty is that they sell this pre-mixed oil anywhere from Wal-Mart to Autozone, and it has enough ZDDP for any of our older engines.
after seeing oil analysis online of CJ4 showing less than 1000ppm of zddp you can keep your cj4. now ci4 on the other hand is another story.
however enough of the small talk. the OP asked about where to buy the ZDDPlus product. if you cant answer the question then why did you thread jack. that happens so much around here is drives me crazy.
person asks something about brand A and a million people jump in with they use product B-Z.
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From: Rockledge FL
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About the cheapest I have seen including shipping. Got to buy 6 bottles at a time.
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From: Hooksett NH
I have checked all the auto stores in the Manchester,NH area and nobody knows anything about or what ZDDP is. I can only find Valvoline VR-1 10w-30. Is this going to give me the protection I need to break in my new rebuilt short block and cam? (Or complete engine.) I've used EOS, and now have CompCam break-in lube in it, with straight 30 weight. would like to switch to 10w-30. and have some assurance.
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From: Holland MI
https://www.cbest.chevron.com/genera...DS31613234.PDF
Or, as another poster has noted, you can still find a CI-4 oil.
My point now, and in my original post above, is that oils are readily available that will meet the needs of our older vehicles. There can be a downside to adding too much ZDDP and much of the time it is wasted money.
Other than at break in of a new engine, I cannot think of any other time I would add a ZDDP type of product to my oil. "Your opinion may differ, your mileage may vary, yadda yadda yadda."
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From: Moon Twp. PA USA
I have checked all the auto stores in the Manchester,NH area and nobody knows anything about or what ZDDP is. I can only find Valvoline VR-1 10w-30. Is this going to give me the protection I need to break in my new rebuilt short block and cam? (Or complete engine.) I've used EOS, and now have CompCam break-in lube in it, with straight 30 weight. would like to switch to 10w-30. and have some assurance.
For a break in I would use VR-1 + EOS. After cam break in is done, switch to straight 10W-30 VR-1. VR-1 has 0.14/0.13 zinc/phosphorus, more than enough for a flat tappet cam, even my CC XE274H cam.
This is what I have run for the last two years without problems, on my 383.
I believe, if you get enough of the right stuff (Z/Ph) in your oil, you do not need 'mouse milk' except for flat tappet cam break in.
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From: punta gorda florida
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From: King George VA
The phosphorus limit on CJ-4 diesel oils is 1200 ppm. Note that this is an upper limit. Doesn't mean they all have just below 1200 ppm (and I suspect that this is what you are hearing). The older CI-4 had an upper limit of 1400 ppm. Again, this was an upper limit and the actual amount of phosphorus may vary by manufacturer.
At the risk of annoying Baxsom, I'm going to agree with 69small block. There are actually automotive oils with high levels of ZDDP that don't need any additives, and in answer to the original posters question, I too get mine in my oil.
The two I've used in my 02 Z06 track car:
AMSOIL Dominator Synthetic 10w30 Racing Motor Oil
(1378 ppm zinc, 1265 ppm phosphorus)
AMSOIL SAE Synthetic Premium Protection 10w40
(1575 ppm zinc and 1424 ppm phosphorus)
I'd probably use the later for a daily driver.
P.S. Sorry Baxsom.
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From: Tillsonburg Ontario
Hello, in answer to you post, we sell Zddplus in Canada and like the product so much we use it in the 3 classic cars we have. If you would like to check out or site http://www.autopartscanadaonline.ca/ is the address and the page we sell zddplus is at http://www.autopartscanadaonline.ca/...oil-additives/ You will also find a free phone number should you have any further questions.
