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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Does anyone run without them?

I'm looking at replacing mine with a set from Sweet-Thunder and I got to thinking, does anyone run with just headers and straight pipes?

Advantages? Disadvantages? Sound better? Worse?

Just curious.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Really obnoxiously loud...and probably illegal in a lot of jurisdictions.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Kinda what I thought too...but would it be any louder than a setup with cutouts?
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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I had mine on for about 2 days without baffles, it was obnoxiously pro stock like loud. at idle it was almost as loud as it is now at full revs with the sts turbo baffles.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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when I first put them on, I ran it without any in them.

I drove 4 miles and got pulled over 3 times

bear in mind that I have a little baby L48, and at an idle, you literally have to scream to talk to a passenger.

I love that sound, but only if I was at a track, and it is highly illegal in most if not all states.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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It's obnoxious and completely unnecessary. I took mine off at the track last week.

Turn it up!!! Both of these runs are pathetic, btw. The first run was started in the wrong gear with a manual valve body.


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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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does anyone have any other videos, or soundclips with different baffles in them?
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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i have a set of maxflows on mine and they sound great. i will try to get a better camera to record them. i have some clips but the audio just does not sound right on my regular digi cam.
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Yea, ear splittingly loud, but then I have a high compression 427
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000FRCZ19
i have a set of maxflows on mine and they sound great. i will try to get a better camera to record them. i have some clips but the audio just does not sound right on my regular digi cam.
Yea if you could get a vid of those, that would be awesome. I'm trying to decide what inserts to go with.
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 87blazer74vette
Yea if you could get a vid of those, that would be awesome. I'm trying to decide what inserts to go with.
Good idea! I may be persuaded to go with something else!
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the maxflows are loud and very deep sounding. they have a very nice bark to them. the spiral type tend to be higher pitched and raspier. they over power the microphone on my camera when reving. if you have ever heard a c5 with no cats, long tubes, and b&b bullets, that is a similar sound but is not quite as loud. the maxflows sound the best of everything i have heard so far. here are the first vids i took with my digi cam of the first fire up of my 396 small block untuned. the vids really do not do the car justice. the sound hits very hard, you feel the sound comming out in your chest and they are much deeper in person.
i will try to get more with a better video camera soon.



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Very very very tiny baffles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HooJnirOTbw
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Originally Posted by 78Vette-SA
Very very very tiny baffles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HooJnirOTbw
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 78Vette-SA
Very very very tiny baffles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HooJnirOTbw
Sounds pretty darn good! What kind of very tiny baffles are those?
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by samh
Sounds pretty darn good! What kind of very tiny baffles are those?
That thing would make reverse flows sound good.

It's not easy to compare inserts when one engine is making 190hp and another is making lets say 500hp. No matter what insert you use they aren't going to sound anything alike.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DZRick
It's not easy to compare inserts when one engine is making 190hp and another is making lets say 500hp. No matter what insert you use they aren't going to sound anything alike.
Very true!

I'm still leaning towards the Sweet-Thunder set for my 454...but there are some awesome sounding vettes being posted.

Also there was an earlier post http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...vs-spiral.html showing max gains with NO baffles (loud as hell, but best results). I find that interesting. I was just curious if anyone ran baffle-less and the answer seems to be no...too loud.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by samh
Very true!

I'm still leaning towards the Sweet-Thunder set for my 454...but there are some awesome sounding vettes being posted.

Also there was an earlier post http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...vs-spiral.html showing max gains with NO baffles (loud as hell, but best results). I find that interesting. I was just curious if anyone ran baffle-less and the answer seems to be no...too loud.
I've got 2.5" Sweet Thunders in my pipes. They sound awesome with the 454 but are just too loud for normal driving.

I'll be going back to my modified reverse flows this weekend.
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Old Jul 23, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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I posted this comparison of Hookers with Glasspacks vs STS baffles last year, and open headers at the end.

My STS baffles are completely uncapped, and yeah they are pretty loud, it's usually louder than a Harley, if I happen to be sitting next to one at a light.
As for open headers, way too loud; it sent my video camera into error mode and shut it off the first time I tried to record open headers.



Driving with STS Baffles.
With the STS it allowed it to breathe pretty easy, little more performance, but it does sound a bit more raspy or tin canny, and it cackles a lot when coming off the throttle.



Driving with Glasspacks, same route.
I thought they sounded good as well, but they were older and had a little carbon build up when I pulled them.



Good luck on your decision.
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