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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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Good morning all! Temp in high 30s, but supposed to warm to 53 this afternoon. Sure hate to see the driving/show/cruise-in season come to an end.
My question - I want to replace the nose emblem on our '78 pace car. I have a new NOS GM emblem that I bought off ebay. Your expertise as to how to best remove the old emblem will be most appreciated.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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Should be pretty easy with the hood open. Reach in with a quarter inch ratchet w/deep socket and it should be easy to get off. I believe it is held on with speed nuts. Don't over tighten the new one, You can crack the paint or break off the studs.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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The gas filler door emblem was fastened on with speed nuts, but front emblem just has solid points that go through holes in nose and is held on with an adhesive patch. I don't want to start prying on things. The replacement emblem is set up the same way. Pull the paper off the adhesive, points into holes and press it onto the nose.

The assembly manual indicates that adhesive was used from new. They actually clamped emblem in place during assembly to get the desired bond.

Restorer friend said to warm emblem with a heat gun to separate it from the adhesive. I haven't fired up my torch yet.

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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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I guess I didn't remember those cars having the adhesive on the emblems. Heat gun will be the best method to loosen it up.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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I would warm it up with a hair-drier... Not a heat gun... If the sun was out, on a warm day that would probably be enough... Then I would use a piece of dental floss and run it between the emblem & the car... I have removed tons of emblems on motorcycle tanks which are held on the same way... All that is left is a little glue that can be easily cleaned off... Good Luck...
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If the adhesive has essentially hardened a bit of dental floss might not be up to the task, if you are very careful you can use a guitar string. Go to a local music/guitar store and see if you can purchase individual strings.

Wound strings work if you are very very careful, you can apply a slight sawing motion. I would recommend a single string without the winding myself.
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Thanks to all for your suggestions. Seem to hear heat and dental floss/string/fish line as key contributors to the removal.

Heat via sunlight is going to be rather short in supply for the next few days in the mid-west. Highs are to be in the 40s. Rock 'n Roll show in Greenwood this Saturday is going to be on the very cool side.

Some have questioned why I would consider replacing what may be the original emblem on a pace car. It's like this folks. Our pace car looks sharp, but it has over 165k miles on it. It's not NCRS, but it's "OUR 78".

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Originally Posted by turbo78vair
It's not NCRS, but it's "OUR 78".
You got that right. Enjoy it the way you want it I always say. I wasn't aware of the adhesive either. I just changed them on the 71 and they were just as ratmotortom said (1/4 in ratchet and speednuts accessible after opening the hood). Hang the old one from the mirror or make a necklace out of it. Good luck with the replacement.

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Default '78 Pace Car nose emblem R/I

HOOAH - might not hang it from the mirror, but did buy an emblem that had been made into a belt buckle.

New NOS emblem on the gas lid looks great. The new one for the front should do likewise.

Restorer friend wanted me to consider cleaning/painting the original one. I like the looks of the new one. He has done some great work and I respect his opinion. However, he's working with Bloomington Gold cars. I want "OUR 78" to look sharp for the local car show circuit. It does that as it is now. I just keep tweakin' on it a little to get to the next level.

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Enjoy the new emblem !!! Frame that old one !! Not many Pace Cars can claim 160K miles !!! Awesome !!!!
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Good idea as to putting the original emblems together in a frame. See some folks resell them on ebay for little return. The framed emblems could be added to our show display. Display currently includes the following items:
Large binder with lots of pics and pace car info, window sticker copy
'78 Indy 500 program - had a ticket stub, but lost it
Corvette mags covering Pace car and race - 4 mags
'78 Pace car press kit - put out by GM
'78 Indy 500 Track Report - issued by A J Foyt race team after race

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Gary C - Pace car #3359 - 165,253 miles - Franklin, IN
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