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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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how do I tell if my '74 has a M20 or M21 tranny? Muncie or Super B?
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackkaz04
how do I tell if my '74 has a M20 or M21 tranny? Muncie or Super B?
ON my 71 there is a letter at the end of the ID code that denotes what you are asking.

A is M20

B is M21

C is M22

Can only assume that they still marked them in 74


Hope this helps
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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There is a test you can do. Cruise along in 4th gear at 40 mph and downshift to 3rd gear while keeping speed at 40 mph. The rpm jump to 3rd gear at 40 mph will tell you whether you have a close ratio or wide ratio transmission. Don't have the numbers off the top of my head.


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1551402384-post13.html

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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Here's the numbers on my 70. Should be similar for a 74 Muncie

Trans: M20 P 0M 07 A
P- 4sp muncie
0-1970
M-August
07-day 7
A-wide ratio (standard factory trans)
Vin-70S402011
Trans Casting- 3925661
Small TAG: 3952659 WB

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Old Nov 12, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackkaz04
how do I tell if my '74 has a M20 or M21 tranny? Muncie or Super B?
I assume you mean Super T10 as the only Super B(ee) I know of was made by Dodge.

I think the side covers are a different shape between the Muncie transmission and the Borg Warner transmission. The BW side cover is bowed downward on the bottom whereas the Muncie is pretty straight.

Since the Super T10 was used starting in the 1975 model year you would have to suspect yours has been replaced in order for it to be a Super T10.

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Originally Posted by CCrane72
I assume you mean Super T10 as the only Super B(ee) I know of was made by Dodge.

I think the side covers are a different shape between the Muncie transmission and the Borg Warner transmission. The BW side cover is bowed downward on the bottom whereas the Muncie is pretty straight.

Since the Super T10 was used starting in the 1975 model year you would have to suspect yours has been replaced in order for it to be a Super T10.

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i was referring to the super borg warner
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Old Nov 14, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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It's my understanding that from 70-74, muncies should have the following casting numbers: 3925661 on case, 3978764 on tail. They are all fine spline transmissions- both front and back splines. I believe later years went to a Borg Warner 4 speed.
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Originally Posted by dmayhew
ON my 71 there is a letter at the end of the ID code that denotes what you are asking.

A is M20

B is M21

C is M22

Can only assume that they still marked them in 74


Hope this helps
This is stamped on the right side of the case. I am pretty sure that the M21 was not available for the L48. It only was available for the L82 and 454.
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Should have a M20 from the factory without a performance engine up front...
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Originally Posted by jam23059
This is stamped on the right side of the case. I am pretty sure that the M21 was not available for the L48. It only was available for the L82 and 454.
Mine is an L82...will check as soon as I get home next week. I am gone for a bit for work.
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