what type of sandblaster you guys using???
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what type of sandblaster you guys using???
hello all,
i need to get some help as to what type and size sandblaster most weekend mechanics are using. i'd like to start doing some powder coating so i think i will use it alot. i also hear other types of blasters like "bead" and "glass" blasters. which would i need? take it easy on me i'm a newb.
also,
has anyone tried the Eastwood Powder Coating system?
thanks fellas
i need to get some help as to what type and size sandblaster most weekend mechanics are using. i'd like to start doing some powder coating so i think i will use it alot. i also hear other types of blasters like "bead" and "glass" blasters. which would i need? take it easy on me i'm a newb.
also,
has anyone tried the Eastwood Powder Coating system?
thanks fellas
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First take a look at your compressor.
I have a AU$1800.00 - 16.5cfm compressor with a 80lt tank - and it struggles to keep up with my two air compressors. I have both pressure feed and a suction feed blasters.
Also - DO NOT use these on fibreglass or it'll look like elephant skin. I have used them on the pot metal corvette grills etc and the other steel parts successfully.
I have a AU$1800.00 - 16.5cfm compressor with a 80lt tank - and it struggles to keep up with my two air compressors. I have both pressure feed and a suction feed blasters.
Also - DO NOT use these on fibreglass or it'll look like elephant skin. I have used them on the pot metal corvette grills etc and the other steel parts successfully.
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I have a 80gal 2 stage compressor and a "little blaster" blasting cabinet.
for the larger things I just have a cheapo 10 gallon wheel around deal got it from a northern tool type place.
the little blaster cabinet tho the name isn't fitting it's pretty big and is around 2500 new.
for the larger things I just have a cheapo 10 gallon wheel around deal got it from a northern tool type place.
the little blaster cabinet tho the name isn't fitting it's pretty big and is around 2500 new.
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After pricing new large cabinets, I elected to build my own to save some money. Welded up a frame and had the local sheetmetal shop bend the sheetmetal to my dimensions. Pop rivited the sheetmetal to the frame. Turned out pretty nice and was a great project. I have a 2-stage 80-gal and it keeps up. You'll also have to look into a vac system to deal with the dust.
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Just a little 200hp model
Seriously though... For large jobs I will take my parts to a do it yourself facility, its quick as you do not have to wait for your compressor to catch up and there is no mess to clean up.
For smaller items such as small brackets I borrow a friends sandblast cabinet or use my small 10gal blaster.
I have a 60gal, 5hp single stage that is ok for small jobs but anything larger i go to the blast facility.
Seriously though... For large jobs I will take my parts to a do it yourself facility, its quick as you do not have to wait for your compressor to catch up and there is no mess to clean up.
For smaller items such as small brackets I borrow a friends sandblast cabinet or use my small 10gal blaster.
I have a 60gal, 5hp single stage that is ok for small jobs but anything larger i go to the blast facility.
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I started out with a free standing unit from Harbor Freight - under $200 on sale. But I think the key is the compressor. I have a 6.5 HO, 60 gallon single stage compressor that could not keep up. I now have a 7.5 HP, 80 gallon dual stage compressor that cycles off & on as I work.
You can get a cheapo cabinet but make sure you get a dual stage compressor.
As far as the aggregate goes - it depends on what you are cleaning/blasting. For distributor and alternator housing, I use glass bead. For exhaust manifolds, I use a more course media (Black Beauty medium). For brackets, fan blades and pulleys, I use Black Beauty fine media.
You can get a cheapo cabinet but make sure you get a dual stage compressor.
As far as the aggregate goes - it depends on what you are cleaning/blasting. For distributor and alternator housing, I use glass bead. For exhaust manifolds, I use a more course media (Black Beauty medium). For brackets, fan blades and pulleys, I use Black Beauty fine media.
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I've used a variety of smaller blasters but wasn't too happy with them. I now have a 20 lb pressure blaster and a 6 horse 60 gal single stage (11.5 cfm @90) compressor which handles most jobs easily. When I've got a bigger job like a frame to do I hook up my 2 horse 20 gal (6.3 cfm@ 90) compressor to the 6 horse unit, run both and I never run out of air.
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If you keep checking, Harbor freight has their larger cabinet on sale for 219.00 pretty often. I know a lot of people bad mouth HF, but some stuff isn't too bad for low budget guys like me, besides, it's really just a metal box with a window and a pair of gloves. It also has a spot to connect a shop vac to help keep the dust down while your blsting. Put the bigger money in to a good compressor.
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Melting Slicks
I've used a variety of smaller blasters but wasn't too happy with them. I now have a 20 lb pressure blaster and a 6 horse 60 gal single stage (11.5 cfm @90) compressor which handles most jobs easily. When I've got a bigger job like a frame to do I hook up my 2 horse 20 gal (6.3 cfm@ 90) compressor to the 6 horse unit, run both and I never run out of air.
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I put a "T" fitting on the 6 horse unit, one end goes to the air tool or sandblaster, the other end goes to a on/off valve and then to a hose that connects to the 2 horse compressor with a quick connect. The 6 horse unit has a shutoff valve just prior to the "T" fitting, that way I can have either compressor by itself supplying air to the air tool or sand blaster or by opening both shutoff valves both compressors go to the air tool or sand blaster.
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Melting Slicks
You guys with larger compressors, if it won't keep up to your blaster or cabinet, you need to change to smaller tips. It makes all the difference. Here is what I use:
http://www.uniram.com/other-pb.html
Most pressure blasters come with cheap hoses and small nozzles, I'm sure it's due to cost. By cheap, I mean smaller ID and those tiny 1.5" long nozzles. Here's a hint: You can really supercharge an ordinary blaster by replacing the hose to a larger, 1/2" ID sand blasting hose and a 3" long nozzle. The spray pattern will be larger and less restriction on sand flow. Could cost $100 to do this, but the performance will go up significantly. We did this with my dad's blaster. It went from a POS to a real performer!
If you plan to powdercoat smaller parts, I would say start with a blasting cabinet first. Keep two types of media on hand: sand and glass beads. A HF blaster would be a good start.
Mark G
http://www.uniram.com/other-pb.html
Most pressure blasters come with cheap hoses and small nozzles, I'm sure it's due to cost. By cheap, I mean smaller ID and those tiny 1.5" long nozzles. Here's a hint: You can really supercharge an ordinary blaster by replacing the hose to a larger, 1/2" ID sand blasting hose and a 3" long nozzle. The spray pattern will be larger and less restriction on sand flow. Could cost $100 to do this, but the performance will go up significantly. We did this with my dad's blaster. It went from a POS to a real performer!
If you plan to powdercoat smaller parts, I would say start with a blasting cabinet first. Keep two types of media on hand: sand and glass beads. A HF blaster would be a good start.
Mark G
Last edited by Mark G; 03-23-2010 at 10:14 PM.
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I have the larger Harbor Freight cabinet. I bought it used for $100.00 The previous owner upgraded the nozzle etc like Mark G said and it works well. When I got the thing home I disassembled my cabinet. It originally comes unassembled in many pieces of flat sheet metal and the previous owner assembled it wrong. When I put it back together I used a tube of silicone caulk and caulked all the seams. Otherwise you will have dust everywhere in your garage or shop even with a dust colllector. I have a 5HP single stage compressor and an 80 gallon tank and every 10 minutes or so I stop for about 2 minutes to let it catch up.
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If you keep checking, Harbor freight has their larger cabinet on sale for 219.00 pretty often. I know a lot of people bad mouth HF, but some stuff isn't too bad for low budget guys like me, besides, it's really just a metal box with a window and a pair of gloves. It also has a spot to connect a shop vac to help keep the dust down while your blsting. Put the bigger money in to a good compressor.
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Drifting
I am very impressed with the blasting cabinet you made. Are you willing to share the design with me? I occasionally have parts and other things I've made that I want to blast, and so do members of the car club I belong to. It would be just for personal and club use.
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Let me see what I can do. I am a very busy guy, but I'll try and post some specs sometime in the next couple of weeks.
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Melting Slicks
I am very impressed with the blasting cabinet you made. Are you willing to share the design with me? I occasionally have parts and other things I've made that I want to blast, and so do members of the car club I belong to. It would be just for personal and club use.
Mark G
Last edited by Mark G; 03-24-2010 at 02:15 PM.