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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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My AC compressor needs to be replaced on my 77 vette. I am thinking about ordering a new one and installing it myself. Regarding recharging the system with freon, is this something I can do myself i.e., can I use the new type of freon that is available on the shelf work and if so, do I need to vacuum out the lines prior to adding freon? And if so, how do I vacuum out the lines? Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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You will need a standard assortment of hand tools, a vacuum pump, some R134, PAG oil, a set of gauges, the compressor, a receiver/dryer, a new orifice tube and a full afternoon to fool with it. Help from someone who is familiar with the upgrade highly recommended. It is not impossible, just a PITA.
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77's were a transition year for AC. They began by replacing the A6 compressor with the R4 model. Few 77's were produced with the A6. Later they changed from the VIR (valve in receiver) model to the cycling system using an orifice tube design. They both used R12 refrigerant.

Your first step is to find out what you have. Then come back for further advice.

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Originally Posted by Rotonda
77's were a transition year for AC. They began by replacing the A6 compressor with the R4 model. Few 77's were produced with the A6. Later they changed from the VIR (valve in receiver) model to the cycling system using an orifice tube design. They both used R12 refrigerant.

Your first step is to find out what you have. Then come back for further advice.

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I believe '76 was the transition year. Early '76 has the large long A6 while late '76 has the smaller short R4 compressor. All '77s have the R4 compressor.

As stated above, you must vacuum the lines out-it is NOT optional. You can convert to R134, but I would stay R12. You will want to change the accumulator dryer and the orfice tube when you change compressors.
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Originally Posted by markdtn
I believe '76 was the transition year. Early '76 has the large long A6 while late '76 has the smaller short R4 compressor. All '77s have the R4 compressor.

As stated above, you must vacuum the lines out-it is NOT optional. You can convert to R134, but I would stay R12. You will want to change the accumulator dryer and the orfice tube when you change compressors.
The compressor I have on my 77 is a smaller compressor as compared to my son's 1975 vette. I am still contemplating doing this work myself and buying the manifold gauges and vac pump. Question though, the R12 which is currently what is in the system, don't a person have to have a license to buy it? If that is still the case, then I may have to convert to R134. Are there any issues in doing this with the other components I have or will vacuuming the lines take care of any potential issues?
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A license is required to LEGALLY buy R12 freon.
You can take an online exam for like $20 which is all I did several years ago.
BUT, I've purchased quantities of R12 five times since and was only asked for my license ONE time, so sellers can be pretty lax.

I think sellers are getting around it by simply offering 'R12' without mention of 'freon' in their ads.
Check your local craigslist or ebay.

I prefer to stay with the R12.
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Originally Posted by KapsSA
A license is required to LEGALLY buy R12 freon.
You can take an online exam for like $20 which is all I did several years ago.
BUT, I've purchased quantities of R12 five times since and was only asked for my license ONE time, so sellers can be pretty lax.

I think sellers are getting around it by simply offering 'R12' without mention of 'freon' in their ads.
Check your local craigslist or ebay.

I prefer to stay with the R12.
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Originally Posted by KapsSA
A license is required to LEGALLY buy R12 freon.
You can take an online exam for like $20 which is all I did several years ago.
BUT, I've purchased quantities of R12 five times since and was only asked for my license ONE time, so sellers can be pretty lax.

I think sellers are getting around it by simply offering 'R12' without mention of 'freon' in their ads.
Check your local craigslist or ebay.

I prefer to stay with the R12.
Thanks for the info. Do you by chance have any info i.e., website information for the online exam? I'd like to check it out. thx
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