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Old Oct 7, 2010 | 03:50 PM
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I just got an E-mail @ 3:15 today from Roy Sinor NCRS National Judging Chairman that my order # 68 ( WOW HOW WEIRED IS THAT ) ? was mailed today on 10/7/10 for my 1968 Vette............. yippie yippie cant wait, i'm like an expecting father............after all these years the mystery has been solved !!!

That was faster then expected. I was number 68 i requested it at 6:30 am on 10/1..................COOL !!

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How did you know you were # 68? Was that on your original confirmation receipt or on your email today? I put my request in on 10/1 also but at 10 AM. Maybe mine ise't far behind....
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How did you know you were # 68? Was that on your original confirmation receipt or on your email today? I put my request in on 10/1 also but at 10 AM. Maybe mine ise't far behind....
it was on the e-mail they sent..................your not far behind !!!
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Now that I have got my 72 restored to #s matching( Hopefully ready for NCRS judging) I am working on it's paper documentation trail. So this is a start at the beginning of the car life. I have had the car for 30 years so I need to find out what went on in the early 8 years of it's life.
I saw the thread From (JETTVETTE) on this site advertising the original paperwork that he has for sale but a little Leary to put my Vin# out there.
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Now that I have got my 72 restored to #s matching( Hopefully ready for NCRS judging) I am working on it's paper documentation trail. So this is a start at the beginning of the car life. I have had the car for 30 years so I need to find out what went on in the early 8 years of it's life.
I saw the thread From (JETTVETTE) on this site advertising the original paperwork that he has for sale but a little Leary to put my Vin# out there.
???? how did you restore it to numbers matching ? you restamped the pad ? what you mean ?
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Am I using the quote "Numbers Matching" Wrong? Since I have owned the car for 30 years I started by checking what wasn't the correct casting #s and Casting dates and found that most was the original to the car (including the engine block, trans and differential) with some exceptions. I found that the Heads, Water Pump, Starter, Alternator were not correct so based on the block cast dates and assembly dates I went out in search of the missing parts after two years of searching I found the correct cast # and dates to fit the blocks dates of the items that were not correct. They were cores but were rebuilt to new. Have checked the car from nose to rear for dates and most all check out. NOTE! no restamping was necessary.
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Am I using the quote "Numbers Matching" Wrong? Since I have owned the car for 30 years I started by checking what wasn't the correct casting #s and Casting dates and found that most was the original to the car (including the engine block, trans and differential) with some exceptions. I found that the Heads, Water Pump, Starter, Alternator were not correct so based on the block cast dates and assembly dates I went out in search of the missing parts after two years of searching I found the correct cast # and dates to fit the blocks dates of the items that were not correct. They were cores but were rebuilt to new. Have checked the car from nose to rear for dates and most all check out. NOTE! no restamping was necessary.
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Originally Posted by #s matching 72
Am I using the quote "Numbers Matching" Wrong?

There's no correct way of using this term. It's a hackneyed, overused, meaningless phrase that simply causes confusion and disagreement.
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I odered two reports a little after 8am so I should be getting an email soon.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
There's no correct way of using this term. It's a hackneyed, overused, meaningless phrase that simply causes confusion and disagreement.


Though I take it to mean the serial number derivative on the block matches the vehicle VIN. The casting number of the block and date codes should fit as well. Beyond that I have not seen consistent usage of this term.
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guys.. unless you are spending BIG and I mean six figures big.. all this numbers matching is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. back when, before someone decided that having all the numbers be the same would make the car sell for few more bucks, no one gave a flying sh-t about it.

Tell you what.. you're buying a 58? a 72? these original engines are way old. Most were blown or beat to crap.

Someone's gone to the trouble of finding a numbers correct (same year) engine and rebuilding it and slapping it in your car makes THAT car worth way more than an old POS engine that has the same digits.

I just don't get what some people are thinking.

Numbers matching on a $25 or $50k car is ridiculous hype.
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guys.. unless you are spending BIG and I mean six figures big.. all this numbers matching is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. back when, before someone decided that having all the numbers be the same would make the car sell for few more bucks, no one gave a flying sh-t about it.

Tell you what.. you're buying a 58? a 72? these original engines are way old. Most were blown or beat to crap.

Someone's gone to the trouble of finding a numbers correct (same year) engine and rebuilding it and slapping it in your car makes THAT car worth way more than an old POS engine that has the same digits.

I just don't get what some people are thinking.

Numbers matching on a $25 or $50k car is ridiculous hype.

Dear Mr. Mumbo - Jumbo / high jacker ...........

Your so far off base it's not even funny !!!



We are not talking about people "FINDING & REBUILDING & PUTTING TOGETHER" we are talking about cars that are original, an engine that came with the car new & the pad matches the VIN. If you dont think that correctness & matching add value to a collectible car then you need an education. Why not buy a copy of a Mona Lisa then in your eyes it's worth the same an the original........ Same thing, one is the real deal & another is a copy or a fake..........

I can tell you this, my car would depreciate more then 50% if it wasnt a correct, numbers matching, documented big block tri-power car !!!

STAY ON TOPIC.........This is about shipping data reports, NOT about matching numbers, hype & Mumbo Jumbo !!!
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Actually I'm not off base. But you're entitled to believe your own opinion.

Meanwhile.. BACK ON TOPIC.. hope my report shows up soon.
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Actually I'm not off base. But you're entitled to believe your own opinion.

Meanwhile.. BACK ON TOPIC.. hope my report shows up soon.
Thank you for being pollite & acting like a gentleman !!!
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Originally Posted by PhilaScott
guys.. unless you are spending BIG and I mean six figures big.. all this numbers matching is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. back when, before someone decided that having all the numbers be the same would make the car sell for few more bucks, no one gave a flying sh-t about it.

Tell you what.. you're buying a 58? a 72? these original engines are way old. Most were blown or beat to crap.

Someone's gone to the trouble of finding a numbers correct (same year) engine and rebuilding it and slapping it in your car makes THAT car worth way more than an old POS engine that has the same digits.

I just don't get what some people are thinking.

Numbers matching on a $25 or $50k car is ridiculous hype.
I have to admit the number matching business seems to me to have gotten way out of hand as well. It find it totally illogical to say a Corvette with a numbers matching block but totally beat to crap is far better than a vehicle with the identical motor but lacking the covetted numbers. I've even heard a block which was so badly damaged that it had to be sleeved is preferable to a clean, undamaged but not matching numbers block.

I can't deny the buying public is sold on matching numbers being an absolute requirement if they want the car to appreciate in value, or at least far more than the non numbers. I think that's probably the biggest reason for interest in numbers, investment value, not for love of the car. It appears even the NCRS is much more forgiving of stamp pad anamolies than many buyers. Whether it makes sense or not, matching numbers, at least the block and vehicle have become a must have for many buyers. The standard by which value of the vehicle is determined. Only the original block is acceptable, not an otherwise correct block. To each their own...

I must admit I liked the story of a person who thought matching numbers meant the VIN matched the number on the title...
I think DMV would be a bit upset if they didn't...
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I just got an E-mail @ 3:15 today from Roy Sinor NCRS National Judging Chairman that my order # 68 ( WOW HOW WEIRED IS THAT ) ?


Number 68.... and your license plate too!!
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I got emails on both mine.
72 is on the way
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guess i'm not up to speed on these reports.........how do you obtain one, and what info is included?? thanks, Rick
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guess i'm not up to speed on these reports.........how do you obtain one, and what info is included?? thanks, Rick
1st you must join the NCRS then pay $40.00 to obtain the dealer info & address your car was shipped to.

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