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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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Yep!!! That's them!!! Good Work!!!

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I just had an interesting phone call with Lectric Limited.

The short version is that they will not sell component parts of thier products. Nor will they in any way aid you in finding out where to get such things.I have 2 perfectly good battery cables. They will not sell new grommets. They will (of course) sell me a new complete battery cable set - that they make themselves.
But they will not sell the grommets, nor will they even tell me where the grommets come from so I can buy a pair on my own.
Ditto - fiber optics. They'll sell a rear FO harness for the big bucks. But they'll be damned if they'll tell me where I can get the bulk cable to do my own work. Nor will they sell 100' roll.Of course they have the right to run thier business thier own way.
But make no mistake: Going even one baby step to be "helpful" to a do-it-yourself type is not part of thier business model. Just because you can be that way... does not mean you should be that way.

Imagine someone expecting you to buy a whole new set of battery cables just to get 2 lousy grommets? In this economy? Ya... good luck with that.

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I DONT BLAME THEM AT ALL !!!

WHY SHOULD THEY TELL YOU ANYTHING ????

WHILE YOUR AT IT..........ASK COCA COLA FOR THEIR INGREDIENTS
& COLONEL SANDERS FOR HIS SECERET RECEIPE !!!
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:21 AM
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I DONT BLAME THEM AT ALL !!!

WHY SHOULD THEY TELL YOU ANYTHING ????

WHILE YOUR AT IT..........ASK COCA COLA FOR THEIR INGREDIENTS
& COLONEL SANDERS FOR HIS SECERET RECEIPE !!!
What part of the following did you fail to comprehend?

"Of course they have the right to run thier business thier own way.
But make no mistake: Going even one baby step to be "helpful" to a do-it-yourself type is not part of thier business model. Just because you can be that way... does not mean you should be that way."


I made it clear they had a right to "be this way". But remember, it wasn't just a matter of telling - it was a matter of selling.

They want to make you spend over $100 for battery cables, and to that end refuse to sell the grommets. They made a choice on the free market - and now we made ours.

http://shop.americanautowire.com/grommet1.aspx



From this point forward the grommet source will be public information.
I know that I'm personally going to make a point to make sure people know where to get them.
The free market cuts both ways.

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
From this point forward the grommet source will be public information.
I know that I'm personally going to make a point to make sure people know where to get them.
The free market cuts both ways.
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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
What part of the following did you fail to comprehend?

"Of course they have the right to run thier business thier own way.
But make no mistake: Going even one baby step to be "helpful" to a do-it-yourself type is not part of thier business model. Just because you can be that way... does not mean you should be that way."


I made it clear they had a right to "be this way". But remember, it wasn't just a matter of telling - it was a matter of selling.

They want to make you spend over $100 for battery cables, and to that end refuse to sell the grommets. They made a choice on the free market - and now we made ours.


From this point forward the grommet source will be public information.
I know that I'm personally going to make a point to make sure people know where to get them.
The free market cuts both ways.

-W

PS: Is your caps lock stuck today?


YUP.............IN REPLY...... FOR ALL SILLY STATEMENTS !!!

If I were the company I would take it as an insult......it has nothing to do with helping you or not. It's just none of your business .....you should have just done the research as you did on your own.

Everything can be sourced givin the time & effort, in many cases it's not worth it, or in some cases you will be required to buy 5,000 of them or be forced to go to a distributor anyway.

Glad you got what you needed & saved money ........KUDOS, the entire world now knows where to buy grommets, thank you !!!
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 427SIXPACK
YUP.............IN REPLY...... FOR ALL SILLY STATEMENTS !!!

If I were the company I would take it as an insult......it has nothing to do with helping you or not. It's just none of your business .....you should have just done the research as you did on your own.

Everything can be sourced givin the time & effort, in many cases it's not worth it, or in some cases you will be required to buy 5,000 of them or be forced to go to a distributor anyway.

Glad you got what you needed & saved money ........KUDOS, the entire world now knows where to buy grommets, thank you !!!
Wow, who pissed in your cheerios?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 427SIXPACK
If I were the company I would take it as an insult......it has nothing to do with helping you or not. It's just none of your business .....
I don't represent or work for that company. I work for me first and us second. They were of no help to me or us - and I said so because it's the whole truth. (Telling the truth is not "bashing" a company - the truth is never out of line) I really don't care if they are insulted - just as I was or wasn't insulted when they refused to sell me a grommet. You really should not care iether - unless you happen to own a piece of them. Now that I think of it - you seem awful defensive of this kind of behavior? Are you the guy that was selling water for $10 a gallon after the last storm?

I have every right to note that this company is deliberately refusing to sell the grommets (that they posess) to us - in order to try to push the whole cable on us for need of said grommet.

I never said that this behavior wasn't within thier rights.

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Wait till he calls Bob & Brad and they say "sorry we can't help you".
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Originally Posted by ...Roger...
Wait till he calls Bob & Brad and they say "sorry we can't help you".
For what it's worth...
They tried to say "can't" - and I made them say "won't".

Try it sometime. It's fun to make the "won't crowd" tell the truth when they try to hide behind "can't".

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Originally Posted by Clams Canino
I don't represent or work for that company. I work for me first and us second. They were of no help to me or us - and I said so because it's the whole truth. I really don't care if they are insulted - just as I was or wasn't insulted when they refused to sell me a grommet. You really should not care iether - unless you happen to own a piece of them. NOPE, JUST HAD A LOT OF GREAT EXPERIENCES WITH THEM IN THE PAST Now that I think of it - you seem awful defensive of this kind of behavior?BECAUSE YOUR BASHING A COMPANY & I THINK YOUR OUT OF LINE Are you the guy that was selling water for $10 a gallon after the last storm? NO - $20

I have every right to note that this company is deliberately refusing to sell the grommets (that they posess) to us YES YOU DO- in order to try to push the whole cable on us for need of said grommet.

I never said that this behavior wasn't within thier rights.THEN WHO CARES ........??-W
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Originally Posted by 427SIXPACK
THIS IS MY.02 & OUT !!!
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Originally Posted by 427SIXPACK
I DONT BLAME THEM AT ALL !!!

WHY SHOULD THEY TELL YOU ANYTHING ????

WHILE YOUR AT IT..........ASK COCA COLA FOR THEIR INGREDIENTS
& COLONEL SANDERS FOR HIS SECERET RECEIPE !!!
Pemberton recipe

This recipe is attributed to a diary owned by Coca-Cola inventor, John S. Pemberton, just before his death in 1888. (U.S. measures).[11]

* Ingredients:
o 1 oz (28 g) caffeine citrate
o 3 oz (85 g) citric acid
o 1 US fl oz (30 ml; 1 imp fl oz) vanilla extract
o 1 US qt (946 ml; 33 imp fl oz) lime juice
o 2.5 oz (71 g) "Merchandise 7X"
o 30 lb (14 kg) sugar
o 4 US fl oz (118.3 ml; 4.2 imp fl oz) powder extract of cocaine (decocainized flavor essence of the coca leaf)
o 2.5 US gal (9.5 l; 2.1 imp gal) water
o caramel sufficient
* Merchandise 7X:
o 80 oil orange
o 40 oil cinnamon
o 120 oil lemon
o 20 oil coriander
o 40 oil nutmeg
o 40 oil neroli
* "Mix caffeine acid and lime juice in 1 quart boiling water add vanilla and flavoring when cool. Let stand for 24 hours."

Colonel Sanders Fried Chicken

1 fryer, cut up (2 1/2 lb.)
3 c. water
1 T. salt
2 t. fine herbs (combination parsley, chives &
tarragon equal parts
2 t. onion salt or powder
2 t. seasoned salt
2 env. instant chicken broth
1/4 t. seasoned pepper
1 c. flour
fat for frying


Recipes as requested...where's my grommets???

and DON'T MAKE ME STOP THIS CAR!!!!!!..................
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mobjack68
Pemberton recipe

o 4 US fl oz (118.3 ml; 4.2 imp fl oz) powder extract of cocaine (decocainized flavor essence of the coca leaf)
Back in the beginning they used real coca extract and no caffine.
The good old days.

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Dormans is also a good source for bits and pieces. They have an on-line catalog, get the part number, and go to a NAPA store.

I too was surprised to see all the bits and pieces Loews sold.

How I found about Dormans wide variety. I bought a hydrobeast from VBP. My stock clevis, which you're supposed to use, wasn't long enough. The brake pedal wouldn't not rotate enough upward to engage the stop light switch. I called Hydroboost and asked for help. Actually there are two companies selling Hydroboost kits. Unfortunately, the one I contacted wasn't the one that supplied the Hydroboost kits to VBP. He told me to contact the other Hydroboost company. (They have almost exactly the same names.) No one would answer the phone. I called the first guy up, and even though he didn't supply my assembly, he told me to look in a Dorman's catalog, find their selection of clevis's and order a 3/8 inch clevis. I did and Bingo. A perfect fit. I perused the Dorman catalog and noted all their bits and pieces that otherwise would be difficult to find.
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Back to connectors, etc.

M&H is a competitor to Lectric Limited. They appear to be more flexible about making custom harnesses, but they also won't sell individual connectors either.

I needed some custom harnesses for my 68. I wanted to make them look like OEM harnesses. I chose Packard Electric as a source of connectors. It was expensive. For example if you want one 4 pin connector, you have to buy a bag perhaps eight of 8 male connector halves and a bag of 8 female connector halves. If you want a #14 connector pin, you have to buy a bag of 50. If you want a #18 connectror pin, you have to buy a bag of 40. (The bag content numbers are different.) And so on and on. An you have to buy crimpers, also expensive.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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I used to buy all my electrical connectors ,fasteners and auto screws from a company called Auveco out of KY. Here in my area I bought from a jobber supply company and they stocked most hot moving items from the company. I'll have to see if I can find their catalog.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Auveco sells all their stuff in quantity and not direct retail.
Many moons ago before the internet, body shops and repairs shops used to have fastener salesman come around on their route and sell mostly the Auveco fasteners etc. Check with a local body shop and see if they have or will order you parts. They will have the same problem though, quantity.

Or you can try an outfit like
http://www.thecliplink.com/
They have a link to the big catalog.

I'm surprised anyone even still made the oddball battery cable grommet. A bit pricey, but better than the complete cable.

Dorman is more into replacement small parts than fasteners, but their catalog is also huge.
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They will not help you if you buy all the wiring from them either. All three harness where new from them for my 68. I had 7 problems from wiring in the plugs wired wrong, to wrong plugs, wires to short. No help from them!!!
Things like the radio plug did not have any of the notches cut in them so it would not plug into the radio.
I'll eat worms before I send another $1,200 to them for anything.
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UPDATE: I ordered the 2 grommets Tuesday night. Order "in progress".

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UPDATE: I ordered the 2 grommets Tuesday night. Order "in progress".

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Darn , I just found 2 really good used ones I was going to give to you !
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