I was given this BB engine - what is it??
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I was given this BB engine - what is it??
I;ve googled for an hour and can't find a source to type in engine #s and find out what I have. My best friend, Dan, died last Sept and his wife said he wanted me to have this engine he built about 10 years ago. I think its a 454 and will post some pix later. I picked it yesterday and got home late last night.
Here are the block #s T0411V T221953 The alternator & brackets are in the way for a really good look.. Seems like there aren't enough numbers.
Any help would be appreciated.... Thanks...
Terry
PS. Dan was a 68 YO serious gearhead and engine came mounted on a rolling dolly that is a poor man's Dyno. Has a radiator, battery, and long fuel lines, a small insturment panel (oil pressure, H2O temp, ignition switch etc.. Dan used for breaking in engines B-4 installing.. I'll take some pix and post them.. again, thanks for anyy help you can give me..
Here are the block #s T0411V T221953 The alternator & brackets are in the way for a really good look.. Seems like there aren't enough numbers.
Any help would be appreciated.... Thanks...
Terry
PS. Dan was a 68 YO serious gearhead and engine came mounted on a rolling dolly that is a poor man's Dyno. Has a radiator, battery, and long fuel lines, a small insturment panel (oil pressure, H2O temp, ignition switch etc.. Dan used for breaking in engines B-4 installing.. I'll take some pix and post them.. again, thanks for anyy help you can give me..
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Sorry, I gve wrong #s in original post. I can't seen #s very weel because of alternator and S.S. fuel line. This a.m., I pulled alt and tok some pix. My wife is helping me load them so I can post here (don't know much about computers..) Here are the numbers that I have verified 3 times:
Engine block (boss/deck) T04111V 221953
Right side head (removed valve cover) 3908802 or 3808802 (I cleaned with tooth brush etc. and 2nd digit is not too clear)) GM 6T CON V4 C28 7
Right side exhaust manifold GM RH5 3988310
I'll attempt to post photos shortly..
I really appreciate all the help on determining what engine my late friend left to me.
Terry
Engine block (boss/deck) T04111V 221953
Right side head (removed valve cover) 3908802 or 3808802 (I cleaned with tooth brush etc. and 2nd digit is not too clear)) GM 6T CON V4 C28 7
Right side exhaust manifold GM RH5 3988310
I'll attempt to post photos shortly..
I really appreciate all the help on determining what engine my late friend left to me.
Terry
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IV (letter I) makes it a mid 60s vintage 396 as stated by squirrel. If it's 1V (one Vee) it's probably a 454 marine or industrial engine.
Do you have the casting number and date from the block?
I'm coming up dry on the head and manifold numbers....
Do you have the casting number and date from the block?
I'm coming up dry on the head and manifold numbers....
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I pulled the alternator and SS fuel line to get better access to # block stamps with some lacquer thinner and scotchbrite, I lightly cleaned the #s. I'm more confused now than B-4. Here is what I see with a penlite & mag glass:
221953 does not change is not in dispute (with me lol) the 1st set of letters/numbers are vague. T04 (these are very clear) 1IIV or T04711V. The last 2 #/letters B-4 the V are identical but different from the # AFTER the 4.
Block castings: Rear from 2:00 oclock position (inside near flywheel)
HI-PERF
TRUCK
PAS
A
Outside near flange at 10 oclock position:
3902406
letter "P" horizontal face down under #s...
FYI, my friend Dan said this engine was a 454 (?), one of his former employees (helped me load it last week) said it is a 427 (?) and it maybe a 396... Whatever it is, I thank you for your help on my freebie engine...
Terry
221953 does not change is not in dispute (with me lol) the 1st set of letters/numbers are vague. T04 (these are very clear) 1IIV or T04711V. The last 2 #/letters B-4 the V are identical but different from the # AFTER the 4.
Block castings: Rear from 2:00 oclock position (inside near flywheel)
HI-PERF
TRUCK
PAS
A
Outside near flange at 10 oclock position:
3902406
letter "P" horizontal face down under #s...
FYI, my friend Dan said this engine was a 454 (?), one of his former employees (helped me load it last week) said it is a 427 (?) and it maybe a 396... Whatever it is, I thank you for your help on my freebie engine...
Terry
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Joe, I took 32 digital pix this a.m. and all of them are not very good. I know VERY little about our dig camera with auto zoom/focus/flash. I have seen hundreds of downloaded digital pix on this forum and I wish I knew how they do it... Just have to keep trying..
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Joe, I took 32 digital pix this a.m. and all of them are not very good. I know VERY little about our dig camera with auto zoom/focus/flash. I have seen hundreds of downloaded digital pix on this forum and I wish I knew how they do it... Just have to keep trying..
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http://www.yearone.com/updatedsingle...gineinfo5.html
More good info http://www.yearone.com/updatedsingle...gineinfo6.html
Found this
Engine Codes – By deciphering the codes stamped on the pad just below the passenger side cylinder head, you can determine when, where and for what application your engine (or block) was built and intended for. For the most part engine assembly plants used a standard format throughout the muscle car years which makes decoding much simpler. The only major change in this code appears on engines built for 1970-and-later models. In these codes an additional identifier was added, which in the case of Chevrolet was "C" for car and "T" for truck. The codes appear in the following format:
ex. T0205EG – engines for models through 1969
ex. V0525CNR – engines for 1970-and-later models
http://www.yearone.com/updatedsingle...es/decode3.jpg
The first character represents the engine assembly plant. A complete list follows this article. In the case of our examples, the "T" and "V" represent the Tonawanda, NY and Flint, Michigan plants respectively. The second and third characters are the month of assembly ("02" = February and "05" = May in the above examples), while the fourth and fifth characters represent the day of assembly ("05" = fifth day of the month and "25" = twenty-fifth day of the month).
More good info http://www.yearone.com/updatedsingle...gineinfo6.html
Found this
Engine Codes – By deciphering the codes stamped on the pad just below the passenger side cylinder head, you can determine when, where and for what application your engine (or block) was built and intended for. For the most part engine assembly plants used a standard format throughout the muscle car years which makes decoding much simpler. The only major change in this code appears on engines built for 1970-and-later models. In these codes an additional identifier was added, which in the case of Chevrolet was "C" for car and "T" for truck. The codes appear in the following format:
ex. T0205EG – engines for models through 1969
ex. V0525CNR – engines for 1970-and-later models
T04111V Tonawanda,04=april assembly, 11= 11day of april
3902406 396 67 Chevelle 2 & 4 Bolt Main
3902406 396 67 Camaro 2 & 4 Bolt Main
3902406 396 67 Pass 2 & 4 Bolt Main
T221953 T=tarrytown 1975, 3902406 396 67 Chevelle 2 & 4 Bolt Main
3902406 396 67 Camaro 2 & 4 Bolt Main
3902406 396 67 Pass 2 & 4 Bolt Main
http://www.yearone.com/updatedsingle...es/decode3.jpg
The first character represents the engine assembly plant. A complete list follows this article. In the case of our examples, the "T" and "V" represent the Tonawanda, NY and Flint, Michigan plants respectively. The second and third characters are the month of assembly ("02" = February and "05" = May in the above examples), while the fourth and fifth characters represent the day of assembly ("05" = fifth day of the month and "25" = twenty-fifth day of the month).
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If it's a 396 or 427, it's internally balanced. 454's are externally balanced. The damper has a weight pad cast into it, but you probably cant see it since the damper is close to the engine. Maybe you can stick your finger behind the damper and feel for the weight. If you took the oil pan off, I think you can see it pretty easy. It's shouldn't be to hard to remove the damper if you've got the right tool. The crankflywheel/flexplate will have a weight also if it's a 454. The cast in weight on the flywheel is easy to see/feel.
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First off sorry for your loss. In the course of someone's life you don't get a lot of best friends. That being said I would guess it to be a 396 or 427 because of it having the large oil filter cartage.
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If it's a 396 or 427, it's internally balanced. 454's are externally balanced. The damper has a weight pad cast into it, but you probably cant see it since the damper is close to the engine. Maybe you can stick your finger behind the damper and feel for the weight. If you took the oil pan off, I think you can see it pretty easy. It's shouldn't be to hard to remove the damper if you've got the right tool. The crankflywheel/flexplate will have a weight also if it's a 454. The cast in weight on the flywheel is easy to see/feel.
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Engine block (boss/deck) T04111V 221953
Right side head (removed valve cover) 3908802 or 3808802
Terry[/QUOTE]
Is it possible that the head # is 3909802? As previously stated the Block, Heads come up as a 1967 396/325H.P. If this is the correct head number.
Also I believe that 67 was the last year for the metal cannister filter. As I recall the FRAM # was CH200PL so would need a spin-on adapter to mount the filter that is currantly on it.
I'd pull the filter and see if it has an adapter, 68 and later would of been spin on.
Dave.
Right side head (removed valve cover) 3908802 or 3808802
Terry[/QUOTE]
Is it possible that the head # is 3909802? As previously stated the Block, Heads come up as a 1967 396/325H.P. If this is the correct head number.
Also I believe that 67 was the last year for the metal cannister filter. As I recall the FRAM # was CH200PL so would need a spin-on adapter to mount the filter that is currantly on it.
I'd pull the filter and see if it has an adapter, 68 and later would of been spin on.
Dave.
