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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 03:28 AM
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The blue 71 LS6 454 sold for 176 at BJ which seemed like a great price for an all original low mile LS6 with a ton of paperwork.Warren looking for your take on this one.
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Warren,looking for your take...Jerry
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Interesting. I'm amazed how much money is being paid for these LS-6. I wonder how they compare to a 69 Tri Power.

Here's another LS-6 on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS6-4...item2a0d92a21c.

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Looks like prices are soft all the way around - except for low mile high horse survivor cars - or restomods. It's a great time to be a buyer.
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Originally Posted by jr9170
The blue 71 LS6 454 sold for 176 at BJ which seemed like a great price for an all original low mile LS6 with a ton of paperwork.Warren looking for your take on this one.
Believe he's already weighed in on this previously.
Based upon the eBay listing from nearly a year ago, and the sale price from this past week, I'd have to say 6L36Coupe is spot on and could even go so far as to lift his soft market exception for low mile high horse survivor cars.

It's a great time to be a buyer
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This LS6 is a low mile high horse survivor with around 14k miles,all original paint,motor,interior and paperwork out the ***.
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Hey Dan,how you making out researching your 70 ZR1 ?
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Originally Posted by Yankeededandy
Interesting. I'm amazed how much money is being paid for these LS-6. I wonder how they compare to a 69 Tri Power.

Here's another LS-6 on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS6-4...item2a0d92a21c.

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The car in the ebay ad was an auto very rare but not as desirable to most. As for how they compare what do you mean perfromance, resale, desirability? They are far, far more rare then a 69 tri power car. Its said that only appox. 35 cars are left of the 188? Its the last solid lifter BB they made, not to mention they have alum. heads as well. Very rare and neat cars.
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Yes, if they are compared, then with the L88.
What was the red line on the LS-6 ?

Except for the CI difference, very similar eng to L88, but still, L88 go for more.
Is this because of the L88 racing history the LS-6 does not have ?

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Gunther, the LS-6 endured a drop in compression to 9 to 1. I believe the red line was 6500, but an L88 could definitely out run an LS-6. I believe the LS-6 cam was more in line with the L71 cam as well. Similar architecture, but definitely a different personality than an L88. Originally, the LS7 was slated to replace the L88 in 1970, but unforunately that never happened. Then, the compression ratio's dropped and things were never the same. In that sense, the LS-6 was the last of the breed.

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The 71 LS6 on ebay,even though an automatic,is a real beauty with great documentation and a 176k asking price.The LS6 that sold at BJ,IF it was a real sale,sold for 176k which is a great price as it was a 4-speed vert,original survivor with very low mileage.
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As far as rare vs.desirable,the LS6 is way more rare and a 68-69 427/435 is probably far more desirable to most.I myself would love a LS6 but it is not realistic.I recently sold a 69 427/400,black/black real 900 code,with a/c,original motor that was a very solid #2 driver that ran like a bear,alot of forum members seen it for sale at Carlisle and posted pics of it on here,that had people buzzing for it at Carlisle cause i priced the car to sell at 45k and sold it.If i were to keep it and put some money into it to correct some minor stuff,with the looks and the way it ran 75-80k was very reachable cause of the desirabiklity and affordability of a 427/400 tri-power with its original motor.There are not as many REAL 68-69 427 tri-power as some will lead you to believe.
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Originally Posted by jr9170
Hey Dan,how you making out researching your 70 ZR1 ?
Haven't found the original owner yet - but haven't been looking that hard lately. Few months ago confirmed the car came from Guaranty Chev. in San Diego via the NCRS shipping doc verification service...

Still chipping away at it though!
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Bump for you Warren,looking for your opinion.
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Originally Posted by Yankeededandy
Interesting. I'm amazed how much money is being paid for these LS-6. I wonder how they compare to a 69 Tri Power.

Here's another LS-6 on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS6-4...item2a0d92a21c.

Martin
I owned a LS-6 for ten plus years. I bought a 32k mile original car back in 1990 just when L-88's and big block cars were getting desirable. The LS-6 and a tripower car or not of the same breed.
Standard on the LS-6 :

Nitrided crankshaft ( nitrided coated forge steel)
7/16 rod bolts on forged rods
Floating wrist pin connecting pistons to rods
Aluminum heads
7/16's size push rods
Transistorized ignition
Dual disc clutch
M-22 trans ( which was a option for the LS-6 cars)

The 435hp cars:
Regular forged crank
3/8's bolts
Pressed in wrist pins
Iron heads
3/8's push rods
Single disc clutch


The internals are more stronger, the nitrided crankshaft was not even on the L-88's just on the ZL-1's. The rest of the internals were like L-88's but the compression dropped to 9:1 which kills the desirability of the car. The low production numbers of 188 help it though.

It was a great car to owner on today's pump gas. My car (to the bone original) with original skinny size tires, idling out of the gates at 900 rpms has run 12.6 sec with me a non drag racer. With some tires who knows? I have a video of this but it's on 8mm film(90's tech) it was a fun ride. My Freind that has a 1990ZR-1 bought the car from me after that day at the drag strip when I was beating his new "king of the hill" ZR-1. He was turning 13.0 to 13.3 that day and is a very experienced
drag racer.
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Originally Posted by LPE385
The car in the ebay ad was an auto very rare but not as desirable to most. As for how they compare what do you mean perfromance, resale, desirability? They are far, far more rare then a 69 tri power car. Its said that only appox. 35 cars are left of the 188? Its the last solid lifter BB they made, not to mention they have alum. heads as well. Very rare and neat cars.
If that's true, it's only a matter of time before there are 400 of the remaining 35 getting NCRS and Bloomington paperwork. But then, 5 out of 4 people have a problem with fractions
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Anyone can build anything today. That's why unrestored good condition cars are worth more. Survivors.
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If that's true, it's only a matter of time before there are 400 of the remaining 35 getting NCRS and Bloomington paperwork. But then, 5 out of 4 people have a problem with fractions
And an equal number of people somehow believe that NCRS 'paperwork' has got something to do with establishing authenticity of a car, despite ongoing efforts to the contrary.

You can lead a horse to water etc.
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And an equal number of people somehow believe that NCRS 'paperwork' has got something to do with establishing authenticity of a car, despite ongoing efforts to the contrary.

You can lead a horse to water etc.
I bought my car with zero paper work, if you know your cars you can tell a real car. I then hunted the paper work down. Dealers invoice, tank sticker, dealers order form etc. Have everything but protect plate which a previous owner told me he had but knows he lost it. What a shame.
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