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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Light poles and parking stops were I live...

wait, it doesn't snow here...
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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This guy is mental! Its mad how close to things his front bumper is!
At the 7:00 mark you see him bump the Seguey./:\
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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In my opinion these cars are not designed for drifting any more than they were designed for drag racing.
If you want it to perform well in either if these venues then modifications should be made.
It does look like fun and i would be willing to try it....In someone elses Vette!!!
I say put some cheap skinny tires on it and give it a go!!!
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by parkerracing
The next time your local schools close due to snow, get in your car/truck and get to the school parking lots BEFORE they plow. You'll learn plenty about drifting (just watch out for the light poles)/:\
That may be awhile. I live in the Phoenix area.

My 72 is gonna be a cruiser but I have my 92 setup with a sport suspension system from VB&P. I've autox'd it with a group of local corvette guys. It is a blast to drive them hard in a safe environment, even had a safety crew available. At first I would tend to overdrive the corners and skid nearly out of control around some of the sweepers. After numerous laps, I learned to watch my entry speed and power out, many times drifting around the corners. It was a blast!
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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Then you need to get out of the valley and into the mountains...
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by parkerracing
Then you need to get out of the valley and into the mountains...
Sorry, I grew up in MI and I work outdoors wrenching on jets. I love to hunt elk and deer in the high country, but prefer to live in the valley of the sun.
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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by parkerracing
The next time your local schools close due to snow, get in your car/truck and get to the school parking lots BEFORE they plow. You'll learn plenty about drifting (just watch out for the light poles)/:\
That's what I did with my Grandson in my pickup the first winter after he got his driver's license. Sure showed him what it felt like to go into a skid and what to do. Now he isn't scared and doesn't panic when it happens on the roads/hiways. I like to do it myself at the start of each winter just to get the feel of it again.

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Old Oct 8, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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I bought my C3 ('70) back in 1998. I was running out of money to go vintage racing since my son was by then 6 years old and I had just went through a plant closure at work. My race car (a '67 Mustang A sedan car) was a little too radical to be street driven so I bought the Vette as a cruiser/2-seater that I could actually drive, and looked forward to the day when I could hand my race car over to my son so he could go road racing like I had the good fortune to do when I was in my 30s. As he grew up, though, he became more and more interested in this quirky thing known as 'drifting' and his dream car became...you guessed it...a Nissan 240SX. Well, that's what he wanted, and he WAS a good student, Eagle Scout, etc.,etc., so when he turned 16 I went and found him a '91 240. He has spent the last couple years modifying everything on that car- full coilover tubular suspension, exhaust,5-speed conversion, the usual stuff, and I have to say it is an absolute blast to drive. Not V8 power, but the way the thing just bounces down the road and skates around corners puts an impossible-to-erase grin on your face. I've been to a couple drift events with him and to be honest most of the vintage racers that I associated with (myself included!) could never even hope to begin to hold a candle to the skill level of a really good drifter. My own son's skill level far exceeds my own and I really think that the next generation of really great racing drivers here in America will come from the drifting ranks. And as for using a C3 as a drift car, the basic ingredients are all there-front engine, rear drive, limited slip, V8 torque, with the only drawbacks being somewhat spooky rear suspension geometry and flexi-flyer frame but those can be easily overcome. The thing that is the biggest obstacle to using these cars for drifting is the average age of their owners and the relatively high value of the cars. Drifting DOES tend to tear up a car and most C3 owners treat their cars far too well to ever subject them to that sort of abuse, but if somebody ever took the time to set one up properly it would make one hell of a drift car!
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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Now that you all know Ken Block and if you watched any of the V8 Supercar race from Bathurst on Speed this weekend you should know who Jamie Winncup is. Well here they are head to head. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Mw-v3nW5SPM
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by parkerracing
Now that you all know Ken Block and if you watched any of the V8 Supercar race from Bathurst on Speed this weekend you should know who Jamie Winncup is. Well here they are head to head. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Mw-v3nW5SPM
Heres the Ken Block video I like, awesome! If someone wants to do this kind of thing with a C3 I say rock on!

http://youtu.be/4TshFWSsrn8

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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan H.
Heres the Ken Block video I like, awesome! If someone wants to do this kind of thing with a C3 I say rock on!

http://youtu.be/4TshFWSsrn8
I've watched other videos by him and they are amazing. This one I was just thinking to myself, how the hell are those tires holding up and not blowing and about that time I saw the sparks flying. Could you imagine being a passenger in the car and having him drive it?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:16 PM
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In the winter of 68-69 I put the Vette in the garage and drove a '64 Corvair I bought for $250. I think every guy has one car he runs into the ground and that was mine. Someone said a Porsche would be good for "drifting"with the engine hanging out the back, well that 'Vair on snow was just perfect. 180's, 360's, you name it. we'd go by some guy shoveling his drive, beep and wave, go around the corner and hang a U and come right back by going the other way 10 seconds later! After I got the feel of it I'd even try some stuff on dry pavement. That didn't work as well as on snow account no power but still.....

Wonder what tire pressure those guys run - I'm guessing pretty high to let it slip around like that!
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Polish78
Have any of you encountered a C3 drift car? I've seen one in a video in a drifting competition in Europe, but cannot find it.
600hp 1970 drifting (1:44 to 2:24): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5hMpVJK89s
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 08:08 AM
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Like bell-bottom jeans, drifting is nothing new. I'm an ex-Porschephile (356s old 911s') and there is no better natural drifting, kind to the driver drifter than an old Porsche. The narrow tires and lack of countermeasures to keep the rear planted make them easy to get sideways, at a relatively low speed, and with great control. The thing to master is to learn to look at a corner from a different perspective. Approached with oversteer in mind, getting off the throttle to start the slide and back on it at the right time to carry it through soon become second nature. It also becomes verry, very addictive.
Pure automotive heroin...
WILL NOT be doing it in the 71scgc!!!
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 03:09 PM
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in oregon this time of year, it is hard not to drift a few corners now and then..hehe
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by parkerracing
Then you need to get out of the valley and into the mountains...
mountains? I dont think that's a good idea, he might slide off into a tree!

Originally Posted by indydoug
600hp 1970 drifting (1:44 to 2:24): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5hMpVJK89s
ah the steriod junkies corvette of choice, I remember seeing that thing before, hard to believe they want 240 grand for it.

that's what 180,000 euros translates to

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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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As much as I like to do slides and donuts in the snow, I feel it doesn't really help you with learning to skid/drift your car. True it will help you learn more about trying to correct it in the snow if you start to slide while on the street. But lets face it, when you are sliding on ice, I would say about 25% of getting out the mess without an accident is skill, the rest is being lucky the ice let you get away with it.
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 04:20 PM
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Snow is as different from ice as sand is to gravel and they are all different from tarmac. But the basic skills to kick the tail end out, steer with the throtle and looking where you want to go are the same (granted, on ice if you don't have studded snow tires you're just a fast passenger). But you can get a feel for the vehicle dynamics best on snow because it can be done at the slowest speeds/least amount of power. You can work your way up to sand, gravel and finally paved roads (wet or dry) as long as you use your head (lots of run off and closed to traffic).

If you make a mistake on a flat parking lot with just 2-3" of snow, a simple lift off the gas will bring you to a stop in a short distance.

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