having car undercoated?
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Takes a long time up North to get rid of all the salt residue. It still ruins cars long after the snow has melted and gone. Mine was rust free until I moved up North for a few of years. Now everything has surface rust on it. I can imagine if I lived there longer. Looking back I wish I had it undercoated. Would probably save me several hours now of pulling the body off and starting over.
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The new hi-tech paints have rust killer in the mix. Spray this special paint anywhere you like and it will greatly reduce any chance of rust. Undercoating with a tar-like substance would not be desirable (I would think) as opposed to these new paints. It has been my experience that these specialty paints kill and coat rust for a very long time.
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The new hi-tech paints have rust killer in the mix. Spray this special paint anywhere you like and it will greatly reduce any chance of rust. Undercoating with a tar-like substance would not be desirable (I would think) as opposed to these new paints. It has been my experience that these specialty paints kill and coat rust for a very long time.
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Takes a long time up North to get rid of all the salt residue. It still ruins cars long after the snow has melted and gone. Mine was rust free until I moved up North for a few of years. Now everything has surface rust on it. I can imagine if I lived there longer. Looking back I wish I had it undercoated. Would probably save me several hours now of pulling the body off and starting over.
Improper storage is more likely your rust problem, rather than old salt residue.
I've lived in PA on the shores of Lake Erie most of my life. My Corvette of
28 years is all most rust free.
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Takes a long time up North to get rid of all the salt residue. It still ruins cars long after the snow has melted and gone. Mine was rust free until I moved up North for a few of years. Now everything has surface rust on it. I can imagine if I lived there longer. Looking back I wish I had it undercoated. Would probably save me several hours now of pulling the body off and starting over.
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What brands you ask,
Well, let's see.........There is "Por15" by the Eastwoood company along with other rust inhibiting products. You could visit your auto parts store that has a decent assortment of paint and body repair products....better yet, if there's an auto paint supplier near you will be your best bet on finding out about these types of products.
Remember though, there has to be rust present for these types of products to turn the rust into a harmless iron oxide. Although the Por 15 product may be an exception to the "rust present" rule.
My frame and related components have a shiney black paint applied that when I tap it with a hammer it seems to chip easily but underneath the black is a copper color that does not chip.....hmmmm, very strange and interesting old cars.
Good luck....
Well, let's see.........There is "Por15" by the Eastwoood company along with other rust inhibiting products. You could visit your auto parts store that has a decent assortment of paint and body repair products....better yet, if there's an auto paint supplier near you will be your best bet on finding out about these types of products.
Remember though, there has to be rust present for these types of products to turn the rust into a harmless iron oxide. Although the Por 15 product may be an exception to the "rust present" rule.
My frame and related components have a shiney black paint applied that when I tap it with a hammer it seems to chip easily but underneath the black is a copper color that does not chip.....hmmmm, very strange and interesting old cars.
Good luck....
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He who is smart will undercoat it and enjoy it! I buy my cars to drive not collect dust. I'm not leaving them parked for months AFTER bad weather. That's *** in nine when they make something to take care of it. It's a freakin car. My truck cost more than it did. Too many people pamper these things like they are a million dollar Ferrari.
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[B]He who is smart will undercoat it and enjoy it! I buy my cars to drive not collect dust. I'm not leaving them parked for months AFTER bad weather. That's *** in nine when they make something to take care of it. It's a freakin car. My truck cost more than it did. Too many people pamper these things like they are a million dollar Ferrari.
And as far as trucks go..........I don't know of any truck that costs more then my Vette....SO.............that said.............
I guess it all depends on what kind of vette & truck ya got........
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One last thought for the OP.....You don't want to undercoat a 30 year old car. Even the slightest bit of moisture and/or rust will be trapped by the undercoating, and then will rust even worse. The ONLY product I would use on an older car is the LPS3.....
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My Corvette would not be able to get out of my neighborhood in winter. That's why my daily driver is a 4-Runner. The Corvette does not see the road until a couple good rains. I always feel bad for the new Mustangs, Camaro's, Challengers and 'vettes when I see them driving through the salt slurry in the middle of the winter. They must be their daily drivers. When I was a "car crazy teenager" we would buy a 'Winter Beater' that basically just lasted the season. I do not undercoat my vehicles because it does tend to trap moisture. I do pressure wash the undercarriage weekly.
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My Corvette would not be able to get out of my neighborhood in winter. That's why my daily driver is a 4-Runner. The Corvette does not see the road until a couple good rains. I always feel bad for the new Mustangs, Camaro's, Challengers and 'vettes when I see them driving through the salt slurry in the middle of the winter. They must be their daily drivers. When I was a "car crazy teenager" we would buy a 'Winter Beater' that basically just lasted the season. I do not undercoat my vehicles because it does tend to trap moisture. I do pressure wash the undercarriage weekly.
Thats the word I was looking for...........thanks !!!
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You're in a bit of a catch 22 situation. If you don't 'protect' the car in some manner it will corrode. If you do protect it, it's no longer in factory original condition. D*mned if you do, d*mned of you don't
I'd sooner store the car and find a beater for the winter. C3s are not the best of winter vehicles.
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It's amazing how attitudes have changed! When I was a "car crazy teenager", back in the mid 60s, Corvettes were driven year-round, without a second thought. In fact, many people thought they were great cars for the winter, as "fiberglass doesn't rust".....
One last thought for the OP.....You don't want to undercoat a 30 year old car. Even the slightest bit of moisture and/or rust will be trapped by the undercoating, and then will rust even worse. The ONLY product I would use on an older car is the LPS3.....
One last thought for the OP.....You don't want to undercoat a 30 year old car. Even the slightest bit of moisture and/or rust will be trapped by the undercoating, and then will rust even worse. The ONLY product I would use on an older car is the LPS3.....
Daily driver vs. "COLLECTIBLE"
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IF at the time the car was worth more then most peoples houses they might have thought twice about it..... there are plenty of mid years that today sell for over $150,000 on a frequent basis / back then the vette was only a few thousand more then any other car & thats the difference !!
Daily driver vs. "COLLECTIBLE"
Daily driver vs. "COLLECTIBLE"
Nonetheless, my 'Vette is stored in the winter.....
This statement is absolutely false. Are you a member? A judge? Why mislead the OP with incorrect info?
NCRS flight judging is based upon typical factory appearance as delivered to the first owner. Alterations to this will cause a deduction proportional to the magnitude of the inability to evaluate factory appearance. Applying a thick gooey black tar substance everywhere versus spraying with a transparent oil coating (very common here) would give very different judging results. In neither case would it be anywhere as dramatic as the other posters states. The sky is not falling.
You're in a bit of a catch 22 situation. If you don't 'protect' the car in some manner it will corrode. If you do protect it, it's no longer in factory original condition. D*mned if you do, d*mned of you don't
I'd sooner store the car and find a beater for the winter. C3s are not the best of winter vehicles.
NCRS flight judging is based upon typical factory appearance as delivered to the first owner. Alterations to this will cause a deduction proportional to the magnitude of the inability to evaluate factory appearance. Applying a thick gooey black tar substance everywhere versus spraying with a transparent oil coating (very common here) would give very different judging results. In neither case would it be anywhere as dramatic as the other posters states. The sky is not falling.
You're in a bit of a catch 22 situation. If you don't 'protect' the car in some manner it will corrode. If you do protect it, it's no longer in factory original condition. D*mned if you do, d*mned of you don't
I'd sooner store the car and find a beater for the winter. C3s are not the best of winter vehicles.
I agree, and with respect to the "transparent oil coating", again, that's why I recomment the LPS3....
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