You have a point there it is a FORD. But it was definitely a premature death due to ETHANOL this stuff stinks when it sits up for 4 months.

 

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before the address of any other website, voila Bacongoogle:

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I live in Iowa and it generates a lot of money for our state and feeds our economy. Having said that, I put regular gas in my truck because it runs like crap on corn. Also because it pisses me off that with all of the resources committed to finding an alternate fuel, THIS is the best we can do? If this is the best we can come up with, I wish they would grow hemp since there are many advantages to it over corn.

 

The answer is yes. My son and have been working on a 66 chevelle for 5yrs. The engine is a 454 pumped up and has a special built factory E85 4B carb, from the factory. This has been a real a-- busting project. It has a special high pressure fule pump and the fuel lines are braded SS and the size of a garden hose. The fuel is cheep but drinks 3 to 4 times as much fuel. It does have 650 hp. 4 spd and a beef-up ford 9" rear end. It can be done, but it has been very costly. We wanted to try something different. My 71 vet is going to stay on high test fuel.
Have fun................Keats

 

Factory carb? What factory is that? Holley? Demon?


Scott

 

I like ethanol so much, I am making some of it right now. Check the calendar folks, it's time for PUMPKIN ALE!!!!!

As far as ethanol in my cars, I'd prefer not to. I don't think it will cause any damage, but it is definitely a waste of resources at a time when this country needs to be getting smarter with its resources, not dumber.

 

I live in the middle of Ethanol country.
The water used to create Ethanol is recoverable.
After Ethanol is removed from the corn, the leftover corn byproduct is used for livestock feed. It is not waste. It is actually feed for livestock. It is not thrown away.
10% ethanol will not kill your bronco's fuel injected engine, "Most" of the problems with carburetors and such is caused by "Methanol", not Ethanol. Methanol is found in gasoline dryers like "HEET".
I have been using Ethanol for 30 years consistently in lawn mowers, cars, trucks, etc. I have run it in "almost" every vehicle I have driven for any length of time. I remember one instance where it swelled the carb seal on my old Bendix carburetor. I went back to the station where I got the gas and it was labeled "Methanol". That was 30 years ago.
Yes, mileage will go down, but, in most cases, the mileage is a break even deal because of the lower costs of the fuel. Broin industries is now producing corn oil from the same byproducts, to be used in bio-deisel fuels. Thus, producing more fuel per bushel yet.
Ethanol is here to stay. They are now working on using prairie grasses also. It produces a better grade of Ethanol, more Ethanol, and the grasses can grow on poor soils and needs no chemicals to produce. Ethanol is not bad. I'm sure that farmers like the benefits of getting something for their corn too. They have been shafted for decades by low corn prices.
Bad mouth Ethanol all you want, but do a little more research before you do. It also helps keep oil prices down.
Your corn based foods are more expensive? Compared to what?

Old way of thinking: Corn = food and feed
New way of thinking: Corn = food, feed, ethanol, bio-diesel, a multitude of other corn byproducts, jobs, community growth, lower oil prices, cleaner burning engines, automatic moisture displacement in fuel storage, deicer for roads in the snow belt, research to better Ethanol sources, and more.

I also consider myself quite ignorant of Ethanol uses and research. This is just a peripheral knowledge of corn based Ethanol.

 

Here's a thread on ethanol and qjets

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...t-quality.html

 

It looks like a thread on defective parts from Echlin/NAPA.

 

Hi Scott, The carb is an 850 made by Quick Fuel Industries, There is a lot more to getting the HP you are looking for. AS I said yesterday, fuel pump, new lines. Also you can run alot more high compression in your engine by using E85 fuel. The octain is any where from 100 to 110. This is all new tech stuff. Most guys don't know obout E85 Its a new generation. I wouldn;t say all but a lot of the high performance guys on the track are using it. A good web site to go to is WWW.raceone85.com

 

Hi Terry, I sent you some info yesterday. here is some more. The carb is an 850 made by Quick Fuel Industries, There is a lot more to getting the HP you are looking for. AS I said yesterday, fuel pump, new lines. Also you can run alot more high compression in your engine by using E85 fuel. The octain is any where from 100 to 110. This is all new tech stuff. Most guys don't know obout E85 Its a new generation. I wouldn;t say all but a lot of the high performance guys on the track are using it. A good web site to go to is WWW.raceone85.com

 

You can certainly build a carb and tune it for E85, but then the problem becomes you have put E85 in it all the time, or re-jet your carb any time you change. When driving any considerable distance, even around town, this can be an issue.

 

If you read the posts by Ruggles, Lars and Olescarb, it points out that the accel pumps were fine for pre ethanol gas.
That is why Ruggles went to lengths to make his own ethanol resistant pump assemblies.

I don't know of any issues with electronic fuel injection.

 

It's all about getting baked on bacon. LOL

 

It seems to me my mileage goes down approx. 5-10% using ethanol and they mandate 10% ethanol in my gas. So if it's so great for corn farmers why don't we just give the farmers money not too produce the corn to make ethanol. Oh that's right we already give farmers subsidys.

 

I know that if the farmers don't get the help they will get out of farming. That is why there is fewer and fewer small family farms every year. Unless you are a big farmer, there is little money in it. To pay them not to produce corn will not help ethanol, feed, gas prices or your food dollar.

 

The idea is how many handouts do we give people not to produce anything. I wasn't really serious we should pay farmers not to produce corn for ethanol. So I guess we should pay small hardware stores to compete with Home Depot, pay small dress stores to compete with Walmart.

The real issue here is what do we think of ethanol and that it's a total waste of our resources. It takes almost as much energy to produce a gallon of ethanol as ethanol delivers. And that's not including the fact that you have to truck ethonal because it can't go in pipelines.

 

Builder I have to disagree with you here. The fuel I buy says 10% ethanol by volume on our local gas pumps not methanol. My bronco is fuel injected and sat for 4 months with a electrical problem. When I got around to fixing it the ethanol mixed gas was rotten. I'll qualify rotten, it smelled so bad it would make you sick just to open the gas cap. I had to pull the gas tank and replace the 2 fuel pumps and clean the fuel injectors and a number of other things, this was a pain in the ***. I did not like spending the money or the time just to help a farmer or our political system. Builder you can go on all day about how good ethanol is but I have experienced ETHANOL first hand and I am not on your band wagon. Mark

 

In the earlier days of "alcohol" mixed with gasoline, some companies used Methanol in the gas. Methanol has probably disappeared from gasoline by now (I don't know that for sure). I was telling you of a circumstance that happened 30 years ago.

Marks76ray - You don't have to get on my band wagon.

People have the right to be "myth"informed. After four months of sitting your fuel was rotten? I have a fuel injected truck that sat for 8 years with ethanol in the tank, and I ran a full tank (34 gallons) of smelly gas through the thing. I drive it all the time. Fuel pumps go bad. Rubber fuel lines go bad. These things happen all the time from the beginning of time. It's common.

So you had your Bronco fixed and were told it was the ethanol, You didn't run it anymore. Fine. Believe it. Your problem is solved. But, how do you explain the "millions" of fuel injected cars that run it every day without it screwing them up?

Politically, I am still on the fence about ethanol subsidies. I'm not sold on all aspects. I think we could save more money addressing people who live their whole lives on Welfare than we could on Ethanol production.

 

There is a reason they try to keep it out of some racing series. More power. We have dynoed it and in lower HP lower compression computer controlled engines and an increase of 1-2% HP vs non ethanol street fuels.