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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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Great job Hamad! Thanks for the write up and all the pics!

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The shifter handle is too tall for my taste, is there away that I can cut it 1 in. shorter and re-weld it (using MIG) without risking the chrome to get discolored?


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The shifter handle is too tall for my taste, is there away that I can cut it 1 in. shorter and re-weld it (using MIG) without risking the chrome to get discolored?


You might even want to take a couple inches off of it. Here is what mine looks like and it is very close to the factory shifter height.

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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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You might even want to take a couple inches off of it. Here is what mine looks like and it is very close to the factory shifter height.

Did you cut it and re-welded it or you found another shorter one?, I'm a bit worried about ruining the chrome by the welding heat.
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Did you cut it and re-welded it or you found another shorter one?, I'm a bit worried about ruining the chrome by the welding heat.
No, this was the one that came with the kit. I am wondering if the shift mounting point is higher in your tranny than mine. My kit came from Keisler. I would think that the levers are all made by the same company and would be the same length but who knows.
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No, this was the one that came with the kit. I am wondering if the shift mounting point is higher in your tranny than mine. My kit came from Keisler. I would think that the levers are all made by the same company and would be the same length but who knows.
Could you please do me a small favor? can you measure the exact height of the handle from the end of the trans mounting lever (that has the two mounting holes) to the end of the ball? doesn't have to be exact, just a general reference to what it should look like.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HamadUP
Could you please do me a small favor? can you measure the exact height of the handle from the end of the trans mounting lever (that has the two mounting holes) to the end of the ball? doesn't have to be exact, just a general reference to what it should look like.
From the top of the lever to the top of the bolt flange it is exactly 6 inches. Here is a picture of mine.

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Every time I read about someone doing the swap to a manual, I get the urge to do the same.
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From the top of the lever to the top of the bolt flange it is exactly 6 inches. Here is a picture of mine.

Mine is about 7 3/4 in. tall!, I got to get rid of that extra 1 3/4 in., it looks like a gear lever from a 50s F100 truck!
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Every time I read about someone doing the swap to a manual, I get the urge to do the same.
Go ahead!, now the car is MUCH enjoyable to drive!, I can't wait to finish the break-in period for the clutch and the transmission, that would be the longest 500 miles in my life!
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Go ahead!, now the car is MUCH enjoyable to drive!, I can't wait to finish the break-in period for the clutch and the transmission, that would be the longest 500 miles in my life!


I can wait another year to upgrade my daily driver.
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The leaking clutch master cylinder is fixed now, the rubber O-ring was shot and I replaced it with another one.

BTW, the feel of the hydraulic clutch is amazingly good, I think if any one is considering a auto-to-manual conversion, he should only consider a hydraulic clutch, it was just $150 more expensive than the mechanical clutch assembly and its FAR better, it also feels lighter, absolutely its the way to go.
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Originally Posted by HamadUP
The leaking clutch master cylinder is fixed now, the rubber O-ring was shot and I replaced it with another one.

BTW, the feel of the hydraulic clutch is amazingly good, I think if any one is considering a auto-to-manual conversion, he should only consider a hydraulic clutch, it was just $150 more expensive than the mechanical clutch assembly and its FAR better, it also feels lighter, absolutely its the way to go.
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I'd say get back with A/P and see if they'll swap out the handle, assuming you got it from them and there is more than one style available from them. They hooked me up (fast) with a bell housing spacer when I had issues with hyd clutch shim measurements. I'll check out the length of the stock handle I ordered with the kit this weekend. I'd be i bit nervous about cutting and welding the handle back too. Can't wait to get mine back on road.
BTW I might be in your neck of the woods sometime this year, would love to see your setup.
Have a good one.

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I'd say get back with A/P and see if they'll swap out the handle, assuming you got it from them and there is more than one style available from them. They hooked me up (fast) with a bell housing spacer when I had issues with hyd clutch shim measurements. I'll check out the length of the stock handle I ordered with the kit this weekend. I'd be i bit nervous about cutting and welding the handle back too. Can't wait to get mine back on road.
BTW I might be in your neck of the woods sometime this year, would love to see your setup.
Have a good one.
Being thousands of miles away from US is a big problem to me, I simply can't justify the shipping cost for any returned item, its better to keep it than to send it back and forth. I'll try welding it today and if it turned not as I wished, I'll just order another one for about $80.

Please let me know when you'll be here, I'd be glad to meet you.
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Nice job.
Question -- Did you reuse the power brake pedal and hardware that was originally in the car ? I am converting a 72 automatic to power brakes and I am looking for the correct parts to do so ?
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Originally Posted by HamadUP
Being thousands of miles away from US is a big problem to me, I simply can't justify the shipping cost for any returned item, its better to keep it than to send it back and forth. I'll try welding it today and if it turned not as I wished, I'll just order another one for about $80.

Please let me know when you'll be here, I'd be glad to meet you.
You can't really avoid damaging the chrome when you weld it, esp with a MIG which gets very hot. Make the cut as close to the mount as possible and use the boot to hide the weld. You can cut it directly off the mount but it's harder to make sure its straight when you weld it back on.

Be sure to chamfer the two ends before you weld them. Also, set the feed speed on your MIG to run slower than you think it should - calibrate it on a similar piece of metal. What you want is the end of the filler metal to "drip" slowly into the joint to give you more control.

If you have .020 wire, rollers, and tip on hand, consider switching to those and making three passes, one on each side and then one down the middle. Otherwise, use straight CO2 and the "drip" method above.

Tack the two ends together lightly in one spot, then carefully align with a metal rule all around to ensure straightness. Then make a second tack opposite the first and verify.

Disclaimer: I'm not a professional welder, these are just things I've figured out over time that seem to work for me.
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Nice job.
Question -- Did you reuse the power brake pedal and hardware that was originally in the car ? I am converting a 72 automatic to power brakes and I am looking for the correct parts to do so ?
My car was originally a manual brake which I converted to hydroboost brakes. I havent touched any of the brake setup, I just add the clutch pedal to the existing pedal box.
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Originally Posted by RobbSalzmann
You can't really avoid damaging the chrome when you weld it, esp with a MIG which gets very hot. Make the cut as close to the mount as possible and use the boot to hide the weld. You can cut it directly off the mount but it's harder to make sure its straight when you weld it back on.

Be sure to chamfer the two ends before you weld them. Also, set the feed speed on your MIG to run slower than you think it should - calibrate it on a similar piece of metal. What you want is the end of the filler metal to "drip" slowly into the joint to give you more control.

If you have .020 wire, rollers, and tip on hand, consider switching to those and making three passes, one on each side and then one down the middle. Otherwise, use straight CO2 and the "drip" method above.

Tack the two ends together lightly in one spot, then carefully align with a metal rule all around to ensure straightness. Then make a second tack opposite the first and verify.

Disclaimer: I'm not a professional welder, these are just things I've figured out over time that seem to work for me.
Thank you Robb for the great tips!

I just shorted the handle and now it looks much better, and also the shifts became shorter and firmer, which I really like.

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That looks more like it. Great job!
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