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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 05:32 PM
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Brand new C3 owner here (last weekend) 1981, 350, automatic, Quadrajet carb. I noticied after I got home that when you turn the key on there was a clicking noise under the hood that I traced to the carb. A plug on the front passenger side of the carb (2 prong plug) unplug it and the ticking stops. The car is pretty much original with 99,000 miles. It ran fine on the 90 mile trip home. Any help is appreciated!!!

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Make sure, in every post, to give us as little detail as possible. Never, ever mention what year, engine, transmission, or modifications you might have as somebody could accidentally give a helpful answer.

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Originally Posted by mike ward
make sure, in every post, to give us as little detail as possible. Never, ever mention what year, engine, transmission, or modifications you might have as somebody could accidentally give a helpful answer.

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Originally Posted by donjack
Brand new C3 owner here (last weekend) I noticied after I got home that when you turn the key on there was a clicking noise under the hood that I traced to the carb. A plug on the front passenger side of the carb (2 prong plug) unplug it and the ticking stops. The car is pretty much original with 99,000 miles. It ran fine on the 90 mile trip home. Any help is appreciated!!!
Since you didn't mention the year of your car, but said it had an electrical plug going to the carb, I'll assume it's an '81-82. At that point in time, GM began installing "feedback" Quadra-jet carbs on the cars. This "plug" you refer to, is connected to a computer, which controls the solenoid that "pulses" the primary metering rods, altering the fuel mixture. The operates by obtaining a signal from the O2 sensor, located in the "Y" pipe.

Step 1....Put the plug back in place! The car will not run properly without the carb in a "closed loop" operation.
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Mine was "percolating" like an old coffeee maker, turned out the heat riser was closed all the time forcing the exhaust thru the intake heating it up.

Check out the heat riser
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I'll presume it's a stock '81 qjet carb which I think has an electric choke. If the ticking was during warm up, it might be normal, but I'll let the people that know something about '81 qjets give a more knowledgeable answer.

Opps- already done, and I leaned something.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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Thank you for the info, I pluged it back in after determining that is where the noise was comming from, will check the heat riser but just to be clear this should not be doing this anytime the key is on, correct?
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Thank you for the info, I pluged it back in after determining that is where the noise was comming from, will check the heat riser but just to be clear this should not be doing this anytime the key is on, correct?
Incorrect!!


As soon as you key the ignition, you're telling the computer that you intend to start the car, which in turn, tells the O2 sensor to prepare to monitor the air/fuel mixture, therefore causing the solenoid on the carb to "pulse" the metering rods, controlling the mixture.

The carb needs to be "plugged in" and you need to hear the solenoid pulsing. This is how a "feedback" Quadra-Jet is designed to operate.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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Thank you. Glad to know mine is working correctly, guess I just didn't hear it when the car was outside. Thanks again!
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If you're planning on working on your Vette, get a Genuine GM Service Manual for that specific year. Don't try and fool around with the aftermarket ones- 90+% of the time, they're incomplete in respect to diagnostics. They do have some good info, but in 1981, the CCC system was a mystery. Even some of the guys that were working on them at GM took some time to figure it all out. And they had GM's Tech info.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Make sure, in every post, to give us as little detail as possible. Never, ever mention what year, engine, transmission, or modifications you might have as somebody could accidentally give a helpful answer.

By the way, I chose your post for points towards my 2012 'Mr. Nasty' award. Thanks!
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The Mixture Control Solonoid pulses 10x per second. It meters your fuel to produce the most efficient air/fuel ratio when idling and as you drive. Therefore, it will operate cleaner, not rich or lean. It basically does what a fuel injection system does, but it's electromechanical in the form of a carburetor, not an injector or injectors. A good running 81 will just sit and idle like a fuel injected car will. The good news is that the computer parts have come down in cost if and when you need any.

If you are into doing your mechanical work yourself and like to know more about your car, THIS is the manual to get to know all there is about your carb:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-88-GM-C...22867e&vxp=mtr

And, this would be the other one dealing with the computer system itself:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/81-82-83-84-...53ef24&vxp=mtr

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If someone asks for more info than you give in your initial post, don't just go back and edit your first post, post another post with the requested info. or at least indicate that the added info is an edit. Not doing so can make the thread confusing for people trying to read it. Good luck with yout computer controlled carb, I have heard that traditional carb skills won't get you too far with these things, but if you invest in a little book learning, they can be worked with.





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Originally Posted by scottyp99
If someone asks for more info than you give in your initial post, don't just go back and edit your first post, post another post with the requested info. or at least indicate that the added info is an edit. Not doing so can make the thread confusing for people trying to read it. Good luck with yout computer controlled carb, I have heard that traditional carb skills won't get you too far with these things, but if you invest in a little book learning, they can be worked with.





Keep the shiny side up!

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Back "in the day", I had two cars with this carb on it. The first was an '85 Firebird that I bought new, and several years later, an '82 Buick LeSabre that I picked up for a "winter car". Over the course of time, I rebuilt both of these carbs, and they weren't all that different than a regular Q-jet, other than the solenoid for the metering rods. It did seem a little strange, however, setting the "duty cycle" of the solenoid by using a dwell meter....
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