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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 11:30 AM
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i HAVE A 69 427/435 THAT I PLAN TO RESTORE. THE VIN IS 195702155 AND THE ENGINE IS TO911LR BODY # IS 194379S702155. CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE OPTIONS AS I AM TOLD IT IS A DELETE CAR ORDERED JUST FOR RACING - M-22 4.11 REAR ETC. SEND INFO TO EDL1@HARGRAY.COM OR CALL ME AT 843 298-9677 THANKS ERIC
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Eric-

No information exists on a car by car basis as to which options they came equipped with. If you're lucky, the tank sticker might still be in place which would list the options. Not sure exactly what you mean by a 'delete' car, there was no such thing in 1969. All cars had heaters, wipers, etc. by federal law and could not be deleted by the OEM.

BTW posting in ALL CAPS is considered shouting, kinda rude.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 12:13 PM
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Thanks for the info - i apologize for the caps.
Regards eric
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EDL0944
...THE VIN IS 195702155...
That's the VIN derivitive stamped on the engine, tranny, and frame if they are original.

...THE ENGINE IS TO911LR...
Tonawanda (NY) engine plant, assembled September 11. LR suffix indicates the 435hp with manual transmission. The M21 was required with this engine, but the M22 was an available option.

If your engine was assembled on September 11, your Corvette has to have been assembled after that date. Check the Time/Build code in the upper right corner of the trim tag.

...BODY # IS 194379S702155...
That's your VIN.
1 Chevrolet Division of General Motors
9 Corvette
4 Half the displacement of the base engine (V8)
37 Body code for a coupe (67 for convertibles)
9 Model year (1969)
S Plant code for St, Louis, Missouri
7 Car line series code. All 69s have this 7.
02155 consecutive unit number

#2155 was assembled in late September, 1968. Jives with an engine assembled on September 11th.

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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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Did you look to see if there is a build sheet on the gas tank yet?
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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No build sheet as the tank is long gone. No a/c - no PS or PB it does have a radio - m-22 trans with 4.11 rear end. extra set of iron heads and the original 3x2 setup. 54k original miles - Le Mans blue with black interior. Has the chrome aircleaner and the distrib cover. i appreciate the info
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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What makes you believe it has an M22 transmission?
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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What makes you believe

1. that the 4 speed is an M22?
2. that it is original to the car?
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jetjockey
What makes you believe

1. that the 4 speed is an M22?
2. that it is original to the car?
The tranny numbers should match some of the numbers on vin. That's the only way to tell.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EDL0944
No build sheet as the tank is long gone. No a/c - no PS or PB it does have a radio - m-22 trans with 4.11 rear end. extra set of iron heads and the original 3x2 setup. 54k original miles - Le Mans blue with black interior. Has the chrome aircleaner and the distrib cover. i appreciate the info
Not having air, steering or brakes, does make it a "delete" car. These things were not standard in 69, like they are today. AC was not even available, with the 435.

PS and PB were optional in 69, and not near as popular, as they were in later years. Only about half of all 69's had power brakes and about 65% of them had power steering.

I believe the M-22 was only available with the L-88 in 69. The 435 came with either the M-21 close ratio, or the Turbo-Hydro 400. Your trans should have the VIN stamped in the vertical machined service, just forward of where the tailshaft housing bolts up, if it's the original trans.

All 69 Corvettes used a chrome air cleaner lid and all of them that had a radio, used the chrome ignition shielding (distributor cover).
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 10:14 AM
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M-22 stamped on top of trans
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EDL0944
M-22 stamped on top of trans
I don't believe that factory M22 transmissions had any such markings.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I don't believe that factory M22 transmissions had any such markings.

Prior to November 68, all Muncie's were stamped with a "P" on the outside of the case, as part of the date code. After that point, 69 M-22's were marked with a "C" at the end of the date code. The date code is stamped vertically, on the right side lower rear of the case, just forward of where the tail shaft attaches. M-20's were stamped with an "A" suffix, as part of the date code, and M-21's were stamped with a "B".
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I don't believe that factory M22 transmissions had any such markings.
I'm really stretching my memory here, but didn't the M-22s have a drain plug, whereas the M-21s didn't?
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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I believe that the only thing standard for a base 1969 Corvette was the heater and any other option had to specifically checked/ordered or it was never installed.....
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