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For around $70, I think this is a better way to go. I bought it and it works very well. They have a new plate made from solid aluminum, which helps seal better.
With the Motive, you don't have to worry about filling the M/C. Just bleed at the calipers and drain into any bucket. With the tool above, you'd have to keep sucking fluid out of the M/C.
For around $70, I think this is a better way to go. I bought it and it works very well. They have a new plate made from solid aluminum, which helps seal better.
its a good system to use for one person if you have issues with air in the lines, it reverse pressure bleeds the system , pushes the air out the m/c, and there is a technique to it that has to be followed. Its a bit messy, I'm sure in the 15 years since I bought mine they have come up with better systems
Thanks to all the frames that are rotting away on taco's and tundra's this bleeder is the preferred tool.Every new frame also gets new brake lines and trying to manually pump them up is crazy.
I have a Motive, but this got me to wondering if I could make an adapter that would fit the bleeder screws and use it to reverse bleed. If that could be done, then you could use it on any car without having to buy all the Motive adaptors to fit each mastery cylinder.
The other thing I was wondering is if reverse bleeding would get all the air to come out of the master cylinder. Is the hole where the air and fluid would come out at the highest point or would the angle of the master cylinder cause a pocket where air could be trapped? I suppose you could jack the car up so the master cylinder is level.
Since I'm not 100% happy with the feel of the pedal even after using the Motive, I might give this a try.
I bought it after watching Stacy David demonstrate how easy it was. It is in the trash and I stopped watching Stacy. Maybe the most expensive model is better than the plastic one but I wished I had spent the same money on a master cylinder style pressure bleeder. Don't want to sound sour...but I am!!!!!!
I bought mine originally, to eliminate air in the line comebacks in my shop, and it made a believer out of me, as I said it is a bit messy but once you get the procedure down , its quick and pretty much trouble free.
btw. any of the pressure bleeders can be converted to reverse pressure bleed with the correct fitting.
Last edited by oldalaskaman; Jul 9, 2012 at 01:50 AM.
I have a Motive, but this got me to wondering if I could make an adapter that would fit the bleeder screws and use it to reverse bleed. If that could be done, then you could use it on any car without having to buy all the Motive adaptors to fit each mastery cylinder.
The other thing I was wondering is if reverse bleeding would get all the air to come out of the master cylinder. Is the hole where the air and fluid would come out at the highest point or would the angle of the master cylinder cause a pocket where air could be trapped? I suppose you could jack the car up so the master cylinder is level.
Since I'm not 100% happy with the feel of the pedal even after using the Motive, I might give this a try.
Have you tried using the brake pedal while the Motive is bleeding ?
I keep the pressure around 10 and as the fluid is flowing I jab the pedal a little then push it down slowly,then tap around the bottom of the master to dislodge any air that might be stuck.