Brain Dead
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Racer
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Brain Dead
New problem. I keep getting ripped off by so called mechanics so i decided to do it all my self plus running out of money. I recently had a 350 GM motor put into my car. It is suppose to be high comp and cam etc etc but i got into a little fight with the mechanic so i really dont know what the hell is in it. It need a high torque starter which we got from advanced. The problem is.
1. It dosnt seem to turn the engine over good
2. The gear gets stuck in the flywheel. (probably need shims?)
3. When it did work the bendix at the starter would engage and disenge while driving
4. I am rewiring the complete car with the Painless system
5. Just tried to start it bypassing the ignition system and the Bendix got stuck in the flywheel
1. It dosnt seem to turn the engine over good
2. The gear gets stuck in the flywheel. (probably need shims?)
3. When it did work the bendix at the starter would engage and disenge while driving
4. I am rewiring the complete car with the Painless system
5. Just tried to start it bypassing the ignition system and the Bendix got stuck in the flywheel
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Racer
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Melting Slicks
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It will surely eat your new starter! And if it wobbles because it is not bolted in correctly, or the bolts are loose it will cause other damage as well until you repair whatever's wrong. Manual or automatic? Either way the trans needs to come out so you can determine what is amiss, and repair the problem before you drive it even once more.
Drifting
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Is it a flywheel or flex plate ? Did you actually see it bent or warped while running ? If so, as said previously, you will need to remove motor and replace it, or if its not bolted up correctly, you will need to remove motor either way.
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Racer
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From: Westminster
Pissed off Brain dead
Automatic Trans
As i watched the starter trying to engage the flywheel i noticed that it was either wobbling or bent. This motor was laying on a garage floor for two years i was told.
Now when i did pick the car up at the garage it ran a whole five miles before the car stopped running. In neutral it sounded fine. When i put it in gear you could here a rattling noise coming from that area?
Any suggestions?
As i watched the starter trying to engage the flywheel i noticed that it was either wobbling or bent. This motor was laying on a garage floor for two years i was told.
Now when i did pick the car up at the garage it ran a whole five miles before the car stopped running. In neutral it sounded fine. When i put it in gear you could here a rattling noise coming from that area?
Any suggestions?
Melting Slicks
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From: Vero Beach FL
If your torque converter was not seated correctly when the engine was mated up to the transmission it can bend the flexplate. Or if there was rust on the end of the crank shaft the flex plate may not have seated flush. Either case the flexplate needs to come off.
Team Owner
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If anything doesn't look right, it's a good time to simply replace the flexplate with another one. A heavy duty unit, from TCI, B&M, or ATI is only about $60-75 from a variety of sources. Since it's not an easy item to replace, it might be a good idea to put a new one in and be sure of what you have.
Melting Slicks
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No need to pull the engine the center of the flexplate has a hole that slides over the crankshaft end if there is rust in there when the flexplate is bolted up it does not always seat correctly or flush. Grease should be applied to the end of the crank before the flexplate is bolted up. If the flexplate is bent or not seated correctly it needs to come off. You can do this by just sliding the transmission back a few inches or dropping it if you prefer. A new flexplate is fairly expensive. I do not believe you have a crankshaft issue.
Melting Slicks
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The crank shouldn't be bent, but if the engine was "laying on the floor", you never know. What you'll need to do, even though it's a PITA, is drop the transmission, and inspect the flexplate. See if it's bolted tightly to the crank first. It could just be loose bolts. Also check to see if it's seated squarely to the crank.
If anything doesn't look right, it's a good time to simply replace the flexplate with another one. A heavy duty unit, from TCI, B&M, or ATI is only about $60-75 from a variety of sources. Since it's not an easy item to replace, it might be a good idea to put a new one in and be sure of what you have.
If anything doesn't look right, it's a good time to simply replace the flexplate with another one. A heavy duty unit, from TCI, B&M, or ATI is only about $60-75 from a variety of sources. Since it's not an easy item to replace, it might be a good idea to put a new one in and be sure of what you have.
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Racer
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Flexplate
Thanks
So it seems everyone is saying it is probably the flex plate? A little confused being Brain Dead and all. Would this cause the starter to not line up with the flywheel and make the flywheel look like it is wobbling?
So it seems everyone is saying it is probably the flex plate? A little confused being Brain Dead and all. Would this cause the starter to not line up with the flywheel and make the flywheel look like it is wobbling?
Melting Slicks
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From: Vero Beach FL
Yes, If the flexplate was on the engine when it was laying on the ground it could warp it as well. More than likely you would have a engine vibration as well. When you replace the flexplate make sure that the end of the crank is free from rust and grease it to help seat the flexplate flush. When you mate the torque converter to the flexplate during the re-install make sure that the torque converter is correctly seated as well. If you are not familiar with what I am talking about search "torque converter install on youtube.
