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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Looking at a 1970 Bridgehampton blue ( 2 year old paint) black interior,
4 speed, 350/350 rebuilt engine. No power brakes, steering or air.
New black Convert. top.

Lots of replacement parts done. (needs new radial tires) Interior seats replaced. Good door panels. Dash pad good. All guages work and electrical. No rust. Not sure about suspension condition. Might need carpeting.

Seller says the car is a 7 to 8 on a scale of 1 to 10 and 10 being a show car.

So, what should I pay given the state of declining classic car market and the weak economy?

Sorry no pictures but you guys know what this Vette might look like.

Any and all opinions plus what should I check for on this year or be watchful for? Thanks for your help!
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 11:35 PM
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Do the engine numbers match the VIN?
Did you check for rust?
Does the color match the trim tag?
Are you believing the seller on everything?
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 11:48 PM
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"What should I pay?" is a tough question to answer.

Based on your description, I would feel comfortable at $15K.

You need to drive the car some to see how it drives. If it scares you in the corners and is a handfull at 75 MPH changing lanes, and scary when you get on the brakes, figure about $5,000 to $10,000 to get it driving like a new car.

If the motor cranks up and idles perfectly cold or hot, does not overheat, or stutter or skip from idle to redline, you are good there. If not, figure a couple grand to make it run good.

If it shifts great, the shifter is tight, and the clutch feels like a new car, great. If not, figure a few grand to get that up to spec.

If there is no whine, clunks, or creaks from the rear-end - great! if so, figure anothe few thoursand to get that up to snuff.

Completely restored, the car is worth about $25K, anything less, and figure it will cost you more than it is worth to get it in great shape.

If you are going to buy it and let it sit in the garage, just make sure it is pretty and pay what you can for it.

I drive my cars, so they have to drive and ride great. It costs money to get an old C3 to drive and ride great.

Good luck with the purchase.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5869
Do the engine numbers match the VIN?
Did you check for rust?
Does the color match the trim tag?
Are you believing the seller on everything?
Good points, but what is you opinion of value with matching numbers and paint? No rust.
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I recently bought and sold a 70 convertible Bridgehampton Blue with Black interior and a white top, that needed paint, some engine work, some fiberglass work front and back, a complete vacuum system rebuild, a brake system rebuild, and a new top, but it ran and drove. I bought it to finish, but quicklly realized I had too many projects and let it go for $7,500.00

There was easily $15,000.00 worth of work that needed to be done on the car, but the buyer wanted to do it all himself, and was happy with the purchase.

The car was a numbers matching car, but the nose was an Ecklers aftermarket piece, replaced because of an accident. It was fittend on the car, and all the bonding strips were prepped and ready.

I doubt he will ever restore the car and sell it for a profit, but the car will give someone a lot of joy over the next 40 years.
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Good points, but what is you opinion of value with matching numbers and paint? No rust.
Depending on how long you plan to keep it, it is worth about what your C5 is worth now, but will be worth twice as much as the C5 in 10 years.

You will not want to take it on road trips, if you have the C5 available, but you won't want to take the C5 to cruise-ins if the C3 is available.

Here is the best advice I can give you:

1. Buy the most expensive C3 you can afford in your favorite color.
2. Don't sell the C5.
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We just sold our C5 because we were tired of it, but it clearly was a better driver than my '69 and '58.

My personal opinion is that $15k is too low for a numbers matching, 350 hp, 4 sp, correct color good chrome-bumper convertible. $15k is coupe money. What you have described is closer to $17.5-20k to me. JMO.

Caveat is that I am not seeing the car in person. The low options does not help at all, but a correct chrome bumper convertible will always have decent value. I will admit fully restoring my '69 put me deep in the red, so significant restoration or paint can put you upside down in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by FrankMark

Seller says the car is a 7 to 8 on a scale of 1 to 10 and 10 being a show car.
My 7 to 8 on a scale of 1 to 10 is alot different than someone elses.
My paint on my car compared to a guys with a quarter panel caved in is about a 9, on the other hand a guy with a new paint job would rate mine a 3.
Pictures help alot and this forum is the worse one I have ever been on in the last 20 years that just absolutely will not/cannot post pics whether wanting opinions on looks or trying to sell a car or part yet wants the viewer to give give an accurate estimate on a question or decision on buying something and hold them accountable for their appraisal!

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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim H
My 7 to 8 on a scale of 1 to 10 is alot different than someone elses.
My paint on my car compared to a guys with a quarter panel caved in is about a 9, on the other hand a guy with a new paint job would rate mine a 3.
Pictures help alot and this forum is the worse one I have ever been on in the last 20 years that just absolutely will not/cannot post pics whether wanting opinions on looks or trying to sell a car or part yet wants the viewer to give give an accurate estimate on a question or decision on buying something and hold them accountable for their appraisal!
Sorry, but even if had posted photo's of the Vette in question here they would not tell anyone the truth. And the reason I say that is because my experience in the past has been that photo's (even HD) do not give someone a true picture of the car. You must see it in person. I'm not looking for a appraisal. Just your opinion of value based on what I've described. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by FrankMark
Looking at a 1970 Bridgehampton blue ( 2 year old paint) sitting inside or outside???
4 speed, 350/350 rebuilt engine. Big price difference in JC Whitney and Jegs rebuild parts also mechanics No power brakes, steering or air. To me a plus, to 95% other no sale.
New black Convert. top. Professional install or shade tree?

Lots of replacement parts done.Auto zone or GM (needs new radial tires) the right size or corner market mismatched? Interior seats replaced. with material or bath towels? Good door panels. Dash pad good. All guages work and electrical. No rust A convert with no floor rust???. Not sure about suspension condition. Might need carpeting.($290 bucks) and hours of installing, just did this.

Seller says the car is a 7 to 8 on a scale of 1 to 10 and 10 being a show car.

So, what should I pay given the state of declining classic car market and the weak economy? There is no declining classic car market that I have seen

Sorry no pictures but you guys know what this Vette might look like.

Any and all opinions plus what should I check for on this year or be watchful for? Thanks for your help!
Sounds like a $7500 car.
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankMark
...So, what should I pay given the state of declining classic car market and the weak economy?...
Moot point. The seller has it; you want it. It's a simple as that. Declining market and weak economy won't have anything to do with the sale. You and he/she need to get together on a figure both of you can live with.

If the declining market and the economy are actual concerns for you, now may not be the time to be buying.

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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5869
We just sold our C5 because we were tired of it, but it clearly was a better driver than my '69 and '58.

My personal opinion is that $15k is too low for a numbers matching, 350 hp, 4 sp, correct color good chrome-bumper convertible. $15k is coupe money. What you have described is closer to $17.5-20k to me. JMO.

Caveat is that I am not seeing the car in person. The low options does not help at all, but a correct chrome bumper convertible will always have decent value. I will admit fully restoring my '69 put me deep in the red, so significant restoration or paint can put you upside down in a hurry.
Why did you tire of the C5?
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