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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:36 PM
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I have a 1971-4 spd with a 400 sb and it has never had the heater core hooked up since I bought the car 6 months ago. I noticed that the carpet on the passenger side was messed up from what appeared to be a leak from the heater core so I assume that it was leaking and so they just looped the heater hose from the water pump back to the intake and by passed the heater core and the car does not have a surge tank either. I have noticed that the radiator has a few small leaks and I have been thinking I will get a new one from Dewitt's and I already have two fans that are hooked to the front of the radiator that are controlled by a toggle switch and I guess I can use them with the new radiator. Now my first question is can I just do away with the looped heater hose and plug the outlets where the hose comes from at the water pump and the intake? If I'm getting a much better radiator and also have the cooling fans I don't really care about having the heater work anyway, I just drive on mainly nice days. I have added a picture so you can see what I'm talking about. Thanks for any advise or opinions. And please allow me to ask a few more questions on other subjects with this car.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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A lot of people on the forum have plugged them.
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I have read that it can be done but I don't want to mess anything up. I wonder what are the best things to use to plug the two holes from where the hose is now? Thanks
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I have read that it can be done but I don't want to mess anything up. I wonder what are the best things to use to plug the two holes from where the hose is now? Thanks
Standard NPT (3/4in I think) pipe plugs will work fine. Just do not overtighten the one in the manifold. Fancy colored ones can be had at Jegs or Summitt.

BTW, mine are pluged and have done it on other cars. Think race cars have heaters?

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 08:34 AM
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Have you considered having your existing radiator recored? The was no surge tank on your car, but it would have had a coolant recovery tank.

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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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I think the person who had my car before made it into a race car and then when it was time to sell the car they tried to put it back together as a could be driven on the street car so I have been trying since I got it to make back into a good street driver. It had a large Holley double pumper and high rise intake and roll bar as well as the mallory distitrbutor and MSD electronic ignition box and MSD coil and as you can see the looped heater hose and no surge tank and I put the little over flow tank and had to cover it in heat resistant tape just to keep the headers from melting it which did happen on the first one that was mounted where the surge tank was and it got hot enough to melt it. I am really glad to hear that I can just block those lines off and not worry about the over heating. I hear that most folks say it's just as cheap to get a new Dewitts and that it cost about the same by the time you recore your old radiator and it still won't cool as good as a new Dewitts. I have added a picture of under my passenger side fender where the surge tank would be.
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Have you considered having your existing radiator recored? The was no surge tank on your car, but it would have had a coolant recovery tank.

No coolant recovery tanks prior to '73.
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Well thats good news I thought my car just had the tank removed like so many other things.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
No coolant recovery tanks prior to '73.
Ooops. I thought he had a 73. Time to get my eyes checked. Again. Seems like I just did that, six, maybe seven years ago.

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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 08:18 AM
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Interesting on the recovery tank. All tracks require you to have one.

Maybe you can find an aluminum one on e-bay, I pick mine up from Jegs. It is a Moroso purge tank.

I too had the origional radiator re-cored, then changed my mine and went with the DeWitts anyway. When it finally runs, I'll post results

Anyway, you do have options and you are becoming HOOKED on the Vette deices

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Interesting on the recovery tank. All tracks require you to have one.
No Corvette prior to 1973 had one. That's probably 400,000 cars. Why do they need one now?
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I think you are calling it a recovery tank and I guess that's also a overflow tank an if thats right can a person just plug the overflow out let from the radiator and not have a recovery or overflow tank? What is the best pressure cap to use and what pressure should it be?
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyw
I think you are calling it a recovery tank and I guess that's also a overflow tank an if thats right can a person just plug the overflow out let from the radiator and not have a recovery or overflow tank?
No. Pressure beyond the rating of the rad cap must be allowed to vent to avoid bursting the rad.

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What is the best pressure cap to use and what pressure should it be?
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Whatever rad cap GM decided. Check your manuals.
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Thanks, I have found a lot of info since looking around on the forum. I see that I need to check the fluid level I bet I have been over filling, also as you point out I should not need a overflow tank plus I bet my clutch fan is bad. So I'm sure I have all kind of cooling issues to sort out.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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Why not just fix or replace your heater core? After all, it's just nice to have everything working on your car. And although replacing the heater core isn't as easy as changing plugs, it's not that awful hard to do. Only my opinion.
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That's a good point, I do have the other radiator problems anyway but I just have not really felt like fooling with the heater core issue and since I do'nt drive the car a lot I just wanted to focus on the cooling issue first and I guess I can always fix the heater core later.
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I've been running with two plugs instead of the bypass hose for years with no problems. They are pipe thread 3/4 and 5/8 I think.
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