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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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New project car...79 vette that I just want for a casual driver. Why is there only one leaf spring in this rear end? My AIM and Chilton manuals suggest there should be multiple stacked leafs. Didn't notice this at time of original purchase, but after a short drive I find the suspension to be very "hard"...almost as if it bottoms out.
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Is it a composite replacement? Never seen a steel single leaf set up before

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That is not a 1979 differential.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
That is not a 1979 differential.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
I getting beyond my technical competence. How do you get a 1980-82 aluminum batwing crossmember and differential into a 1979....

This is a monoleaf composite spring we put on a 1979 several years ago. Not a good pic but the pre-1980 carrier is visible.


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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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I getting beyond my technical competence. How do you get a 1980-82 aluminum batwing crossmember and differential into a 1979....
Simple, 2 rivets and a VIN tag swap. Hopefully that's not what happened.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FHPauly
New project car...79 vette that I just want for a casual driver. Why is there only one leaf spring in this rear end? My AIM and Chilton manuals suggest there should be multiple stacked leafs. Didn't notice this at time of original purchase, but after a short drive I find the suspension to be very "hard"...almost as if it bottoms out.
Please double verify your car is a 1979 model year?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Simple, 2 rivets and a VIN tag swap. Hopefully that's not what happened.
It was not my intention to distress FHPauly but that batwing has been on there for a long time and is NOT 1979. I can't take those differentials apart but I know what I am looking at. I have seen many pre- and post-1979 C3s from below. The pic above is from a 1979 I drove for 17 years. You are suggesting some serious hanky-panky. Perhaps FH could post the VIN? And a pic of the car.

Or mechanically inclined people might say that that differential swap is possible!!

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 05:54 PM
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A swap is possible but is a considerable amount of work with no net gain- some would say a step backwards as the later diff is not as robust.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
A swap is possible but is a considerable amount of work with no net gain- some would say a step backwards as the later diff is not as robust.
The move to save weight in 1980 did result in some lessening of robustness. The VIN and a pic of the car will tell the tale.
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Ok, so you guys have me concerned...so here is the VIN #1Z8789S431197 and here is the Engine # VO716ZAH
I "assume" the last three letters of the engine # indicate the type of engine....couldn't find those numbers anywhere in the 79 thru 82 descriptions.

So who has the correct I.D. for this vehicle. Almost seems to me that it is a combination of several vehicles....body/engine/frame

The leaf spring is definitely not steel so must be composite material.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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That's a '79 VIN and a '79 engine code. No idea how the car ended up with an '80-'82 diff assembly.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
That's a '79 VIN and a '79 engine code. No idea how the car ended up with an '80-'82 diff assembly.
79 VIN and engine code.

It's a major job to hang a 80-82 rear, from a 79 frame. I wonder if the car was hit and had a 80-82 frame put under it, or maybe a rusted frame? A lot of Corvettes have had frame swaps over the years.

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Ok, so you guys have me concerned...so here is the VIN #1Z8789S431197 and here is the Engine # VO716ZAH
I "assume" the last three letters of the engine # indicate the type of engine....couldn't find those numbers anywhere in the 79 thru 82 descriptions.
"ZAH" is a 79 Corvette base L-48 350, with an automatic transmission.

What does your transmission crossmember look like?

The 79 crossmember has 2 holes in it, for the exhaust pipe(s) to go through. The 80-82 frame's trans crossmember, doesn't have any holes in it. Instead there is just a dimple in the right (passenger) side of the crossmember, for a single exhaust pipe to pass under. Knowing this, would help identify if the whole frame has been changed, or just the rear end.
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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FHPauly
Ok, so you guys have me concerned...so here is the VIN #1Z8789S431197 and here is the Engine # VO716ZAH
As long as the vin plate numbers match the title vin numbers you have no worries.

The rest is just good info should you need to order correct parts.
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How long are the bolts at each end of the leaf spring? Looks like it sits really low, based on the exhaust.
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Originally Posted by paul 74
The move to save weight in 1980 did result in some lessening of robustness.
Sez who? C4s used the same set up.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ironwills76corvette
How long are the bolts at each end of the leaf spring? Looks like it sits really low, based on the exhaust.


The bolts are around 6.5 inches total length. Does this seem right or should they be shorter?
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
79 VIN and engine code.

It's a major job to hang a 80-82 rear, from a 79 frame. I wonder if the car was hit and had a 80-82 frame put under it, or maybe a rusted frame? A lot of Corvettes have had frame swaps over the years.



"ZAH" is a 79 Corvette base L-48 350, with an automatic transmission.

What does your transmission crossmember look like?

The 79 crossmember has 2 holes in it, for the exhaust pipe(s) to go through. The 80-82 frame's trans crossmember, doesn't have any holes in it. Instead there is just a dimple in the right (passenger) side of the crossmember, for a single exhaust pipe to pass under. Knowing this, would help identify if the whole frame has been changed, or just the rear end.


Here's what the exhaust routing looks like. There are two holes in the crossmember as you suggested....only one pipe thru the right side hole then splits into to dual pipes after catalytic converter.
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This is intriguing. That is a pre-1980 frame.
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 11:57 AM
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Pretty simple really. The engine code and vin are 79. The frame is 79 era, there is a vin stamped on the top frame rail, but with the body on you cannot see it. So I'd say someone just swapped in the newer rear end. The p.o. probably had a differential issue and had access to a newer rear end. Swapped it in. Newer design is better right?
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