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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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I'm getting ready to buy a composite leaf spring off the internet . This week I read a posting and he showed his car and it was high in the back . Replies said it wiould settle . Thought's on buying the composite or a original spring . asking price is $200.00 with complete kit . any thought's?
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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It probably will not settle. Expect to need longer spring bolts to get the rear down.

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I'd check with VB&P first for a spring. They'll have the longer bolts too.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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He may have used the original 6 1/2" spring bolts. The norm for composite springs is 8".
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Something to keep in mind when using longer bolts. If you are using wide tires you may want to order a shorter spring. I had mine shortened one inch total, 1/2" each side.
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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so I'm getting go with the original spring ? I know the one on there the shims are sticking out and I'm thinking it's time to do something with it . The rubber bushing's are beat also . The price on the composite seemed like a good with the complete kit and he said he had other rubber mounts along with the kit . I'm assuming the rear mount's ?
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Originally Posted by paul 74
He may have used the original 6 1/2" spring bolts. The norm for composite springs is 8".
Depending on your goal for the car, a composite spring is a great replacement. Like paul 74 suggests, the usual spring bolt length is 8". The pic provided by moose8793 also explains why a shorter spring may be considered.

Good luck.
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Old Feb 24, 2013 | 01:17 PM
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Thanks for your opionion . I would like to go with the new tec. and for the $200 bucks for the kit plus the other bushing's he said he had and would through in kind of make's me want to go that way . I guess if it settles to much I can put the larger bolts back in . Something to think about . I'm to meet up with him Tuesday ,so I have till then to make my mind up . I'll have to check with him on the other parts he has to see what they actually are . This car is in great shape and I would like to keep it . Needs paint and a couple of other issues but all and all she's a keeper . If I ever nfigure out how to post pics I'd love to show it off . Charcole metallic w/ silver leather interior . Everything is stock and not screwed with , 82k original miles . never hit . an all around nice car . has alot of ops too . electric seat ,sport mirrows , windows and locks . Has the original holes in the back deck for the T top carrier , that I wouldn't mind haveing , if anyone knows of one . I have the canvas top for it when I leave the t's home but it's not very water proof .helps a little . hope to paint it when the weather breaks here in New Jersey .
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Old Feb 24, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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I would tend to go for new parts with a warranty. VBP has their kits on sale now for $300.00 (including bolts and cushions). You have not said what year you have but here is an example.

http://www.vbandp.com/C2-C3-Corvette...y-1978-79.html
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Originally Posted by bunkle
I guess if it settles to much I can put the larger bolts .
Longer bolts will make it lower.
Keep us posted on how it turns out.
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It's an 81 . Longer bolts make it longer ? LOL now I'm really screwed up . I was thinkin the oposite . I thought the longer bolts would push it higher . I also thought the composite's settle . that's why I was concerned going that way from the guy who posted his with the back end being high .
The way this guy advertised this leaf spring sounded like it fit the later model c3's . is there a number I should look for to make sure it's for the 81 ?
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the site Paul 74 referred to , are the numbers representing pounds ? 330# ,360 # etc.?
I see there is both for the late 70's and for the 80"s . Now that would make be believe why it might set the rear higher . the more lb's the higher it might raise the back ?
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Originally Posted by paul 74
I would tend to go for new parts with a warranty. VBP has their kits on sale now for $300.00 (including bolts and cushions). You have not said what year you have but here is an example.

http://www.vbandp.com/C2-C3-Corvette...y-1978-79.html



Although the car is long gone, I installed a VB&P composite spring in a C-3 that my wife used to own. All I can say is that I wish I'd had done it years sooner....
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Originally Posted by bunkle
It's an 81 . Longer bolts make it longer ? LOL now I'm really screwed up . I was thinkin the oposite . I thought the longer bolts would push it higher . I also thought the composite's settle . that's why I was concerned going that way from the guy who posted his with the back end being high .
The way this guy advertised this leaf spring sounded like it fit the later model c3's . is there a number I should look for to make sure it's for the 81 ?
The composites do not settle. Just the rear suspension after installation. Final center bolt torque is with the wheels on the pavement otherwise strange cracks develop.

Here is a VBP #330 on my car along with their tuned shock absorbers for composite springs.

http://www.vbandp.com/C2-C3-Corvette...ear-Shock.html



This is the ride height with 235-60 tires. Not 4 x 4 territory. I will be going back to 225-70 and OEM alloy wheels for 2013 to fill the wheel wells better.


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She's settin purtty !! Now that's what I'm talkin about !! Well, you just made up my mind . composite it is . lokk into those shacks also . Now with your's being a vert , should I go with the 330 's ?
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Originally Posted by bunkle
She's settin purtty !! Now that's what I'm talkin about !! Well, you just made up my mind . composite it is . lokk into those shacks also . Now with your's being a vert , should I go with the 330 's ?
I would think 300 is too soft. A friend has 360 and he likes it. I settled on 330 as my car is just a boulevard cruiser and it works just fine for me. It has never bottomed out and gives a nice comfortable ride. If I was a little younger I might go with the 360 to get a little more stiffness on cornering.



I wish to add a note of caution re the spring replacement. Those springs have a lot of loaded energy and can hurt you badly if they let fly. An arm can be broken very easily. I have done several and there are precautions to take and tricks to use. The Archives will give you those tips. It is not a long job but it must be done safely. Good luck with whatever choice you make and be well.

Just for your enjoyment, this is the set of cushions I took off three years ago.


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Originally Posted by bunkle
She's settin purtty !! Now that's what I'm talkin about !! Well, you just made up my mind . composite it is . lokk into those shacks also . Now with your's being a vert , should I go with the 330 's ?
My suggestion would be to call VB&P and ask what they recommend. For my wife's car, a '79 "boulevard cruiser", they suggested a 330 lb/in unit. It worked very well.
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that's what I was wondering . I have a coupe and the extra weight of the window would make me think of the heavier spring would work better
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360 from Vette Brakes and Products is a great choice!

$50 off right now only $299.99 Good price!

http://www.vbandp.com/C2-C3-Corvette...y-1980-82.html


An alternative would be the dual mount, but it's $965.99

http://www.vbandp.com/C2-C3-Corvette...t-1980-82.html

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I would spend the extra $$ for the VB&P spring. These springs can be damaged from heat. I have a VB&P 330# spring also. Stiffer, but not harsh.
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