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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 01:14 AM
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so im doing a few things to get my 77 back to being road worthy. i was messing with the brakes and i bled all of the bleeders and after a bit of braking, the pedal will get closer and closer to the floor. ill bleed them again and then the pedal is tight but will just start to get freeplay again. none of the bleeders are leaking, the calipers arent leaking, and i cant see anything coming from any of the brake lines. so im not sure if its the brake booster or the master cylinder or some other problem. anyone know what it could be or what to check for?

other question, the horn will just go off and random times. i have it unplugged because id go down the road and it would start honking. any ideas?

any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 01:24 AM
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master cylinder will do that when bad

horn relay is being grounded by something or the relay is bad.

my relay, 81, is by the fuse box
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 01:35 AM
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is the only fuse block under the dash on the driver side? havent located another fuse box.
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Did you change the rotors or have them turned?
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Are you getting air bubbles when you bleed the brakes? If so, the cause could be rotor runout. That is why Mike is asking if you changed or turned the rotors. Rotor runout causes the pistons in the calipers to be pushed in and out with every revolution of the tire. Lip seals on the pistons have a tendency to suck air into them when that happens.
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i havent turned them, does anyone know the spec of thickness they need to be? and yes there is air in the system when i bleed them but it isnt much.
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Are they the original rotors still riveted in place? How much runout have you got?
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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Are the calipers the originals? Have they been rebuilt? You may be introducing air that way.
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