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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 10:01 PM
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I am stepping up to a new compressor in the shop. Just bought a Craftsman 60 gallon vertical Tank Compressor. It is 230 volt/ 15 amp/ single phase unit.

So, what size breaker do I need in the breaker box to run this thing. I know it will surge on start up, so what size breaker and what size wire gauge to give me problem free painting and body work?
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 10:39 PM
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what HP Motor if it`s a 5 hp you can do it with a 25 amp breaker
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Sorry for not the right information.

It is a 3.1 HP

I am really surprised it is not listed in the owners manual, but they probably don't want to be responsible for that information (liability issue).

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Run 12-2 and put it on a 2 pole 20 amp breaker and you will be fine.
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Wire size will depend on how far from the source the unit will be. 230 v breakers are double, there are 2 breakers in each one connected by a tie bar at the reset lever. I'd get a 40 (double 20amp) and use 10 gauge wire. That will have 3 insulated conductors and one bare in it. 10-3 with ground.
Keep in mind that I am NOT a licensed electrician and this is just my opinion. BE careful!
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 11:17 PM
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sounds vette related to me
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Old Jul 10, 2013 | 11:23 PM
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oldalaskaman, you always seem to have the answer. How do you keep doing it?
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Originally Posted by havesometo
Run 12-2 and put it on a 2 pole 20 amp breaker and you will be fine.
I run my 5 hp on a 2 pole 20 amp breaker with no problems. I was putting it right next to my sub-panel so I bought a six ft. flexible conduit that was pre-wired.
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Originally Posted by TimAT
Wire size will depend on how far from the source the unit will be. 230 v breakers are double, there are 2 breakers in each one connected by a tie bar at the reset lever. I'd get a 40 (double 20amp) and use 10 gauge wire. That will have 3 insulated conductors and one bare in it. 10-3 with ground.
Keep in mind that I am NOT a licensed electrician and this is just my opinion. BE careful!
Thanks Tim. Ya, I should have mentioned that I am setting it right next to the breaker panel. That helps a lot. And I won't hold you liable for any fire damage.
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12 ga is only needed, but I would go ahead and use 10ga.
For an air compressor you only need 10-2/ground and a 2 pole 20amp breaker.
Stoves and dryers now require 10-3/w ground (added neutral, newer code) only because they use 110v control circuits, compressor doesn't have this.
You can run 10-3/w ground and just cap off the white wire at both ends.
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sounds vette related to me
Ahhhh, close but No. Vette was restored 13 years ago. Now it's time for the Firebird.

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12 gauge wire can be fused at 20 amps max....10 gauge can be fused 30 amps max...
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Originally Posted by HawkIVette
Ahhhh, close but No. Vette was restored 13 years ago. Now it's time for the Firebird.

you coulda kept that quiet
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
you coulda kept that quiet
Hey, at least it's a GM product
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Originally Posted by TimAT
Wire size will depend on how far from the source the unit will be. 230 v breakers are double, there are 2 breakers in each one connected by a tie bar at the reset lever. I'd get a 40 (double 20amp) and use 10 gauge wire. That will have 3 insulated conductors and one bare in it. 10-3 with ground.
Keep in mind that I am NOT a licensed electrician and this is just my opinion. BE careful!

This right is very close to what I did for my slightly bigger 5HP 80 gallon single phase. He can probably use a 30 though. To much breaker is where the problem comes in. I'd rather trip it off a few times in my life than melt the dam wires off it haha. I only have an issue on really hot days when I forget to open up my compressor door. ( I built a small shed behind my shop to keep the noise out, and save shop space) If it's 90 degrees + out and there is little air flow, and I'm sanding with a DA or spraying a lot I end up popping it. If you end up in a situation like that don't just throw a bigger breaker in, as it's DESIGNED TO DO THIS for your safety.

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you CANT use a 10 gauge wire with a 40 amp breaker....You burn down the house and you wont collect a penny on insurance...thats why electricians are licensed..
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Originally Posted by flaco1801
you CANT use a 10 gauge wire with a 40 amp breaker....You burn down the house and you wont collect a penny on insurance...thats why electricians are licensed..


The best way to settle this is to do the equation. If I'm right its Watts / Volts = amps, and you do not want to exceed 80% of the breakers max amperage, or simply look at the motor on the compressor. The next thing that comes into play is the length of the run, which is a whole other equation. I'm still going to say it's safe to run 10/3 under 25 feet with a 30 amp breaker in this situation.
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Originally Posted by flaco1801
you CANT use a 10 gauge wire with a 40 amp breaker....You burn down the house and you wont collect a penny on insurance...thats why electricians are licensed..
Correct. You shouldn't be protecting the breaker with the wire. The wire has to have more capacity than the breaker rating. However, he's not suggesting a 40 amp breaker. He suggested a double pole 20 amp and called it a 40.

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thats fine...a double pole 20 is not a 40amp breaker...was just trying to make sure he wasnt gonna wire for fire....
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