C3 General General C3 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Caliper re-build Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 08:19 AM
  #1  
CAMS69's Avatar
CAMS69
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 696
Likes: 193
From: USA
Default Caliper re-build Question

69 vette, I'm rebuilding all 4 calipers. The pistons have the rubber "lip seal" instead of the "O" ring seal. I'm buying a rebuild kit from Wilcox and want to get the "O" ring kit. Will the "O" ring kit fit my old pistons? Or do I need new pistons? Confused...Thanks!!
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 08:40 AM
  #2  
TimAT's Avatar
TimAT
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 7,123
Likes: 433
From: Gladstone MO
C3 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
Default

The o-ring pistons are different than the original lip seal pistons, so the answer to your question is yes, you'll need new pistons too. Make sure your calipers are sleeved- the O-rings require them.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 08:47 AM
  #3  
CAMS69's Avatar
CAMS69
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 696
Likes: 193
From: USA
Default

Thanks for the quick response!
If I stay with lip seals would that be a disadvantage?
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:32 AM
  #4  
hicswa's Avatar
hicswa
Pro
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 547
Likes: 13
From: Carlstadt NJ
Default

Originally Posted by CAMS69
Thanks for the quick response!
If I stay with lip seals would that be a disadvantage?
They tend to leak.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:45 AM
  #5  
CAMS69's Avatar
CAMS69
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 696
Likes: 193
From: USA
Default

Thanks again!
last question I promise....maybe.

are my calipers sleeved?

well I can tell you this they look like they are sleeved and they are bright any shinny like stainless. I'd assume from the amount of rust and gunk I found inside them that if they weren't sleeved they'd be rusted? Thanks
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:46 AM
  #6  
Brcmpbl's Avatar
Brcmpbl
Drifting
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,353
Likes: 44
From: Calgary Alberta
Default

I'm doing this same job this winter on both of my cars, and the overwhelming consensus seems to be that if you're going to go to the trouble of rebuilding, you should be doing it with o-rings. Lip seals can leak over one winter, etc. Let us know how you make out.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 09:54 AM
  #7  
Easy Mike's Avatar
Easy Mike
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 38,923
Likes: 1,481
From: Southbound
Cruise-In II Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by CAMS69
...If I stay with lip seals would that be a disadvantage?...
No. All C3s used lip seals. There were two designs.

Originally Posted by hicswa
...They tend to leak...
Possibly, but the first design seals were more notorious for allowing moisture to creep past them. The second design seal (78 and later, IIRC) keep moisture out longer.

Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:19 AM
  #8  
CAMS69's Avatar
CAMS69
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 696
Likes: 193
From: USA
Default

Now i'm at a crossroads... Looks like to totally rebuild all 4 and upgrade to "o" ring seals its gonna cost me about 300.00. The crossroads is I can get rebuilt calipers from advance auto for 260.00. The problem is they can't seem to tell me if they have lip seals or "o" rings...guess i'll do it my self.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:29 AM
  #9  
Easy Mike's Avatar
Easy Mike
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 38,923
Likes: 1,481
From: Southbound
Cruise-In II Veteran
Default

My guess is that over the counter rebuilt calipers will have lip seals. No shame in that. There are thousands of C3s running lip seal calipers, including my two.

O-ring seals have their advantages, but lips seals work fine for lots of folks.

Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 10:30 AM
  #10  
DonnieP73's Avatar
DonnieP73
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 581
From: West Monroe Louisiana
2023 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

[QUOTE=CAMS69;1584741639

well I can tell you this they look like they are sleeved and they are bright any shinny like stainless. I'd assume from the amount of rust and gunk I found inside them that if they weren't sleeved they'd be rusted? Thanks[/QUOTE]

I would bet that they have been sleeved in the past.
I upgraded to o-rings on my 73 last month and got my complete
conversion kit from VBP for $140.34 including shipping with a discount
they offered for forum members. This is the kit I got.
http://www.vbandp.com/auto-parts.htm...nversion%20kit
If you contact them, ask about a forum discount.

Donnie
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 01:16 PM
  #11  
my 76 ray's Avatar
my 76 ray
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2,520
Likes: 11
From: Hinckley OH
Default

Originally Posted by CAMS69
Now i'm at a crossroads... Looks like to totally rebuild all 4 and upgrade to "o" ring seals its gonna cost me about 300.00. The crossroads is I can get rebuilt calipers from advance auto for 260.00. The problem is they can't seem to tell me if they have lip seals or "o" rings...guess i'll do it my self.
$300 sounds very high for O-ring rebuild kits (with pistons). Look around for a better price.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 01:30 PM
  #12  
CAMS69's Avatar
CAMS69
Thread Starter
Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 696
Likes: 193
From: USA
Default DonnieP73

Frickin awesome! love this forum, Thanks
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 01:34 PM
  #13  
carjack007's Avatar
carjack007
Instructor
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 186
Likes: 2
From: Moncks Corner SC
Default

Originally Posted by DonnieP73
I would bet that they have been sleeved in the past.
I upgraded to o-rings on my 73 last month and got my complete
conversion kit from VBP for $140.34 including shipping with a discount
they offered for forum members. This is the kit I got.
http://www.vbandp.com/auto-parts.htm...nversion%20kit
If you contact them, ask about a forum discount.

Donnie
Very good deal....

Bob
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2013 | 02:23 PM
  #14  
mds3013's Avatar
mds3013
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,126
Likes: 15
Default

I paid $32.00 per caliper for o-ring seals with pistons. Here is how I did mine. mike...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...-calipers.html
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Caliper re-build Question





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:11 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-1
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE