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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 06:33 PM
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just bleed the brakes, went for a ride to test them out. yeah 40 year old brakes aren't anti lock. at about 40 I jammed on brakes and she pulled right and went around. stopped in the grass facing the wrong way.
YIKES! no damage cept for the heart condition I now have.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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Are you sure you don't have a leaking caliper. c3 brakes aren't anti-lock, but they should not pull or spin the car around. Other causes for pull could be sticking piston(s) in a caliper or a bad brake hose.

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Originally Posted by PeteZO6
Are you sure you don't have a leaking caliper. c3 brakes aren't anti-lock, but they should not pull or spin the car around. Other causes for pull could be sticking piston(s) in a caliper or a bad brake hose.

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OR, one brake not working at all, causing the car to "pivot" around the one brake on that side that IS working...
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I'll have to go back and look at the marks , but I believe all 4 locked up, but maybe not at the same time.
under gradual braking the does not pull, stay straight hands free.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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Glad that you and the car are ok. Unexpected results when braking can cause a lot of unnecessary paperwork. Ugh.

Let us know what you find.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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Could also be a collapsed brake hose. It will act like (brake OK under normal conditions) and the when you hit them hard, it will cause the car to spin out. Been there, done that. Not good for heart if done multiple times. Glad all turned out OK.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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Sounds like 1 or 3 of the calipers are not working properly. The one that grabbed the most was on the side you spun towards. Could be a bad brake line but I steer more toward a caliper on the other side of the car. It might have locked the wheel down but had less resistance on the rotor then the others.

The Vettes have dual piston calipers and if anyone of pistons are frozen on a caliper they will feel OK at normal braking then when you hammer the brakes you will feel a pull because not all 8 kicked in. I would look at the pad wear and see if any of the pads are wearing on one side less than the others. This will be your bad brake cylinder. Measure all the pads front and rear. The one that is failing will be thicker than the other pads. Compare Rear to Rear and Front to Front. Generally the front pads will wear out quicker then the rears so you can use a left or right side measurement on each end of the car. I would also be looking at the Caliper Pins to see if any have rust on them if the caliper pins are not allowing the caliper to move freely it will cause uneven braking when hitting them hard.

Look for lopsided wear on the brake pads. Personally I would have gotten a rush spinning out also.

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Old Oct 5, 2013 | 12:06 AM
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good thing is , it happen just down the road from the house. so everything I pull out I go by there and it will remind me how fast stuff can happen.

Iam betting that the left front isn't grabbing right. because there is a little bit of fluid on the inside of the tire, but the caliper looks clean.

is there much to rebuilding them ?
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Originally Posted by Dustup7T2
Glad that you and the car are ok. Unexpected results when braking can cause a lot of unnecessary paperwork. Ugh.

Let us know what you find.
Sounds a little late for "paper work"....
pre-soak in a good stain remover before tossing shorts into the washer!
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Originally Posted by 4 speed
good thing is , it happen just down the road from the house. so everything I pull out I go by there and it will remind me how fast stuff can happen.

Iam betting that the left front isn't grabbing right. because there is a little bit of fluid on the inside of the tire, but the caliper looks clean.

is there much to rebuilding them ?
Depends.....


These calipers are know for rust in their bores. I don't think GM designed them with the intend that they'd still be used after 40 years. Anyway, that's why there are 2-3 companies that specialize in boring out the calipers and inserting stainless steel sleeves in them. After that, they'll never rust, are "field rebuildable", and a good investment.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
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These calipers are know for rust in their bores. I don't think GM designed them with the intend that they'd still be used after 40 years. Anyway, that's why there are 2-3 companies that specialize in boring out the calipers and inserting stainless steel sleeves in them. After that, they'll never rust, are "field rebuildable", and a good investment.
You can swap your calipers for SS sleeved units at any AutoZone or Advanced. These days it'spretty hard to find a cliper that is not SS lined. The lip seals are the weak point in the caliper design. They work fine if you drive the car every day but if it sits for a while as most C3s do the seal can collapse under the weight of the iston and leak.

A great cure for this is the O-ring rebuild. I put a VBP O-ring rebuild kit in my calipers 3 years ago and despite the car having depressingly few miles every year the brakes are working great.



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