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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:58 AM
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I added a set of Flowmaster Delta 40 a couple of months ago. They sound great around town, but the drone sound in the interior is very annoying after a couple of hours on the road. After spending over $500 on getting them installed not looking to scrap them. Anyone ever add mufflers of some type in front of crossmember? I have the interior very well insulated.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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is there room? will a new reduced size cat fit up there?
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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If you have true dual exhausts.....mini-cats designed for 3Liter engines work great at reducing the noise/drone/vibration (and be SURE to heat insulate/reflector plate between the cats and the floorboard!)...

I don't even have mufflers on my 350/290 sbc/700R4 '36 pickup....but I DO have 2" inlet/2"outlet Harley chrome "mufflers" at the rear bumber....

NO noisy cab...just a low--deep rumble at 70 mph---and as with Harley mufflers...90% of the rumble is BEHIND the vehicle...........radio is very easy to hear at half volume....

Now when you hit passing gear--between the intake and the exhaust---IT'S A WHOLE 'NOTHER STORY...lol!



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Not sure which but I had heard adding an "H" pipe (or maybe it was X) will eliminate most of the drone. Could be getting that confused though
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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The X pipe is the most effective at reducing sound level and drone. It may not eliminate it, but may make it livable. X pipes often add some performance too. A little extra benefit to make it worthwhile.

Wrapping the mufflers with exhaust wrap may help a little also. Some of the drone is the muffler casing itself vibrating and transferring that into the car.

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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Had the same issue of drone with a GTO that has an X pipe, switched to the Dynomax VT muffler. Recommended it to a friend with a Mustang having the same drone issue, still thanks me everytime I see him.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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I have flowmaster 40s,i had straight through duels and then i bought a pypes exhaust pipe system with x-pipe,it did make drone quieter but it still has it,not as anoying.I also do have a built engine,so that might be louder then a stock or mild build engine.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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I had 40's on my '71 Camaro, with an h-pipe, and it was still loud as heck on the open road.

I had a custom single outlet system, with a 70 series "dronemaster" muffler on my truck (full 3" system from the y-pipe collector back, with a hi-flow cat) and the drone on the highway would make the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I ended up installing a Dynomax bullet style mufler just before the tail-pipe exit....I think I went with 2-1/2 bullet mufler vs. staying at 3"...and it took the drone down. I was able to live with it for 65k miles before I replaced the entire system.

Two bullet style mufflers might be an option for you.
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I have 2 1/2 pipes straight back, Stock C5 manifolds. My LS engine is built with a cam. I have some room next to the tranny to try some small cats or mufflers. Don't think there is any room to fit an x pipe behind crossmember.
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I have 2 1/2 pipes straight back, Stock C5 manifolds. My LS engine is built with a cam. I have some room next to the tranny to try some small cats or mufflers. Don't think there is any room to fit an x pipe behind crossmember.
My x-pipe is behind the cross member.
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Use Walker mufflers, Dynomax are top of the line in performance and on the quiet side....the best of both worlds
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Originally Posted by Billysvette
My x-pipe is behind the cross member.
Mine is too.
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Did a shop make the x pipe or was it after market. Got to much money in the flowmasters to scrap this year.
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I built my exhaust from mandrel bends and straight pieces.
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Originally Posted by donnie1956
Did a shop make the x pipe or was it after market. Got to much money in the flowmasters to scrap this year.
I doubt the X pipe will do anything for the drone other than cost you more money which could be applied to the real solution.

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I have a cheap experiment for you,ive seen people put header wrap around their mufflers,they say for heat and it may help with the resonance from mufflers.im thinking the resonance comes through the muffler case,so if you wrapped it the sound might not come through the body of car,what do you guys think about this?i think it could work.
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Originally Posted by Billysvette
I have a cheap experiment for you,ive seen people put header wrap around their mufflers,they say for heat and it may help with the resonance from mufflers.im thinking the resonance comes through the muffler case,so if you wrapped it the sound might not come through the body of car,what do you guys think about this?i think it could work.
This is one of the things I suggested in post #5.

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I doubt the X pipe will do anything for the drone
X pipes do deaden some of the sound waves by crossing the two exhaust streams and it is usually good for a little gain in power. It may not eliminate it, but it will help. I can say this from actual experience.
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Originally Posted by v2racing
This is one of the things I suggested in post #5.



X pipes do deaden some of the sound waves by crossing the two exhaust streams and it is usually good for a little gain in power. It may not eliminate it, but it will help. I can say this from actual experience.
Great minds think alike,i didnt see what you wrote about the wrapping of the mufflers I said this earlier too about the x-pipe,i too know from experience. You can use the silver insulation wrap like they use for covering starters,that way it wont look bad ,but on newer c3s the mufflers are more conceiled.

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Originally Posted by MelWff
I doubt the X pipe will do anything for the drone other than cost you more money which could be applied to the real solution.

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I disagree. An X or H pipe will theoretically cut the pulse amplitudes in half, and double the frequency of the pulses that the mufflers are trying to quiet. It should improve things, but those mufflers are still a large problem looking for a large cure.

FWIW, years ago, as a younger and (naive) enthusiast I had blowmasters on my '69. Spent all weekend welding up elbows and mounts for the mufflers. Drove the car six miles with those mufflers and couldn't stand the noise. I turned the car turned around and drove it straight back to the garage and pulled them off. I put Dynomax mufflers on it and never looked back.

I agree with Ironcross regarding Dynomax mufflers.
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Originally Posted by 69427
I disagree. An X or H pipe will theoretically cut the pulse amplitudes in half, and double the frequency of the pulses that the mufflers are trying to quiet. It should improve things, but those mufflers are still a large problem looking for a large cure.

FWIW, years ago, as a younger and (naive) enthusiast I had blowmasters on my '69. Spent all weekend welding up elbows and mounts for the mufflers. Drove the car six miles with those mufflers and couldn't stand the noise. I turned the car turned around and drove it straight back to the garage and pulled them off. I put Dynomax mufflers on it and never looked back.

I agree with Ironcross regarding Dynomax mufflers.
i agree about the flowmasters ,but alot of people like the sound of them,i think they are the best sounding muffler out there and ive tested alot of mufflers,but that dang drone.if you run straight through pipes is pretty bad,the x-pipe worked for me ,got rid of alot of it to where i can handle it.if you are talking about dynomax ultra flos,straight through design,i tested them and they are free flowing,but they make your car sound like a truck,especially if the engine is stock.and very very quite ,i was really disappointed in them.i dont think the op wants quite.
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