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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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Oh just to let you know feel free to dissect any car that is presented here. It all leads to value. For starters that tach should red line at 5600 for a big block. It reads for a small block.
Oh! Ok. I didn't know that. Was there anything else that really stood out. Sorry if I'm being a pest but I know some of the smartest guys in the Corvette world are here so who best to have their brains picked by a rookie like me. Thanks

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Oh! Ok. I didn't know that. Was there anything else that really stood out. Sorry if I'm being a pest but I know some of the smartest guys in the Corvette world are here so who best to have their brains picked by a rookie like me. Thanks
You are no pest. Great questions. I am gonna send a msg to seller asking for more specific pics. If they send we will find a lot of things.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 05:57 PM
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A 71 LS5 with numbers matching against a non matching LS5 ? And both in the same cond. I would think the Original would be worth more for usually, But I would say that depends on the color of the car and interior . Assuming both have the same options. Percentage wise ? Past my pay grade.
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A 71 LS5 with numbers matching against a non matching LS5 ? And both in the same cond. I would think the Original would be worth more for usually, But I would say that depends on the color of the car and interior . Assuming both have the same options. Percentage wise ? Past my pay grade.
It also appears the valve covers are in question. Should be painted. This entire car is in question and I am convinced just by the tach it is a small block originally. Others should chime in. But for value, I would say it should be worth less than an original small block. Slash the price in on this car 60% at least.

There is another doofus car. I first saw this one and was like WOW until another member burst my bubble and told me to look at the tach. Another non 5600 redline tach. Shows one for a small block. And look at the price?

This car has been sitting there for a LONG LONG time. What does that tell you?

I tried to get stamp pad, VIN pillar, and trim tag info and they have not sent them to me.



Although what appears a nice clean car I don't see this car moving anytime soon at this price. I say they should slash the price in half!

http://www.classicauto-showplace.com/node/19370


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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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"Although what appears a nice clean car I don't see this car moving anytime soon at this price. I say they should slash the price in half!"



Wow! Thats rough!
It is what it is I guess.
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"Although what appears a nice clean car I don't see this car moving anytime soon at this price. I say they should slash the price in half!"



Wow! Thats rough!
It is what it is I guess.
Its only my opinion. Some will agree others not so.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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It also appears the valve covers are in question. Should be painted. This entire car is in question and I am convinced just by the tach it is a small block originally. Others should chime in. But for value, I would say it should be worth less than an original small block. Slash the price in on this car 60% at least.

There is another doofus car. I first saw this one and was like WOW until another member burst my bubble and told me to look at the tach. Another non 5600 redline tach. Shows one for a small block. And look at the price?

This car has been sitting there for a LONG LONG time. What does that tell you?

I tried to get stamp pad, VIN pillar, and trim tag info and they have not sent them to me.



Although what appears a nice clean car I don't see this car moving anytime soon at this price. I say they should slash the price in half!

http://www.classicauto-showplace.com/node/19370

The valve covers could be correct for an early 71. The early ones did come through with chrome valve covers. I'm not sure at while Vin# they stopped at though.
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Originally Posted by theblackvette
It also appears the valve covers are in question. Should be painted. This entire car is in question and I am convinced just by the tach it is a small block originally. Others should chime in. But for value, I would say it should be worth less than an original small block. Slash the price in on this car 60% at least.

There is another doofus car. I first saw this one and was like WOW until another member burst my bubble and told me to look at the tach. Another non 5600 redline tach. Shows one for a small block. And look at the price?

This car has been sitting there for a LONG LONG time. What does that tell you?

I tried to get stamp pad, VIN pillar, and trim tag info and they have not sent them to me.



Although what appears a nice clean car I don't see this car moving anytime soon at this price. I say they should slash the price in half!

http://www.classicauto-showplace.com/node/19370

It was stated the 454 was original engine, no mention whether the tach was original. Must've put the SB tach in it then......
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These people insure them and know the values.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/
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These people insure them and know the values.

http://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/
I don't see any reference to NOMs..
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How is a car that is in perfect condition classified with a NOM? Category 1? Would an insurance company insure for maximum dollars? I think they would. I never heard of them checking stramp pads when issuing policies. Interesting. Sets up for insurance fraud doesn't it?
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You guys have taught me a lot in the last couple months....EVEN I know to look at the tach red-line now.....LOL.

I am amazed at how/why people try to pass off cars as original.....they could at least match the tach to the engine .

"Crooks--------or just Dummies?"
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 06:35 AM
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You guys have taught me a lot in the last couple months....EVEN I know to look at the tach red-line now.....LOL.

I am amazed at how/why people try to pass off cars as original.....they could at least match the tach to the engine .

"Crooks--------or just Dummies?"
If the sellers are knowingly and intentionally misrepresenting the cars and are aware they are not original as advertised they are both crooks and dummies.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by LeMans Pete
It really would depend on the condition of the car. What would be the difference on price for a 1971 LS5, all else equal:
  1. Two pieces of junk
  2. Two driver quality cars
  3. Two top flight cars

If you have a NOM top flight, how can you devalue it 20-50% compared to another original motor top flight?

Now, your market may be smaller, but my bet is a person buying a NOM has different goals than someone who wants an original motor.

I will take either, as long as it is a clean car.
I just remembered. Once upon a time a guy sent me a message about selling me his car. Gives me a price and was ridiculously over market. See ya! Then only a short time later the car gets advertised for thousands and thousands more. I say hey what's they scoop on the price? Response because it got top flighted. Hmmmm do these top flight awards add that much to the car? I'm talking in the neighborhood of 12K?
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by theblackvette
...How hard is it to change a tach?...
Have you changed one?

...Many dont do it? Lazy, cheap, stupid or a little of all?...
Stupid might be unfair. Let's say ignorant. You can do the engine swap and may not know tach redlines were different. You're not necessarily stupid, only ignorant of redlines.

Cheap implies you know you should swap out the tach, but choose not to spend the money.

Lazy could ring true. You know you need to swap the tach; you have the correct replacement. You choose not to do the back flip and get on with the job.

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Have you changed one?



Stupid might be unfair. Let's say ignorant. You can do the engine swap and may not know tach redlines were different. You're not necessarily stupid, only ignorant of redlines.

Cheap implies you know you should swap out the tach, but choose not to spend the money.

Lazy could ring true. You know you need to swap the tach; you have the correct replacement. You choose not to do the back flip and get on with the job.

The only thing I ever changed on a c3s are rally trims and rings for P02 wheel covers. To a professional restorer it can't be that hard to change out a tach. Or am I wrong?
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I have had my dash out 4 times trying to get my speedometer to work, swapping out the tach is just a morning of work...

besides, all you original small block owners with a big block engine in your car, all you have to do is buy this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corvette-Green-Face-Tachometer-5600-RPM-Redline-427-454-BB-Big-Block-Tach-69-71-/190545437280?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ACorvette&hash=item2c5d64a260&vxp=mtr

This will take care of all you fellas that now know to look at the tach red line..

what's next? caps on the u-joints? bigger radiator support.. aged doc to show the car is originally a BB? I can find that on ebay too..
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 09:22 AM
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Original 454 motor? Even confirms it saying that the VIN is stamped on the block. Take a look at the stamp pad in the photos. Price seems to be better.

Does the date on the stamp jive with the trim tag date? Thoughts?

How about the rest of the stamp? The 1's and 7's look a little odd.

BUT.........

Oh....take a look at the tach on this one!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Corvette-2-DR-COUPE-1971-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-t-top-454-ls-5-4-spd-original-motor-/291040851613?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43c362f69d&item=291040851613&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

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Can anyone here list the tach redlines of the various motors??

Love the tutorial - nice thread Marc
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I know for 1971. 5300 small block. 5600 big block. 6500 small block LT1.
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