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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 05:08 AM
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Hi, newbie here, just signed I'm about to buy a '69 Vette, I'm pretty excited! Here it is http://sites.google.com/site/2wow2wow/Home/vette. Good condition and already in EU. But by looking at the pictures, you can see the louvre doesn't match for '69 neither the front grills. Should I be worried? Does it really pose a problem if I ever wanted to sell it and should I press the price down?

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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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I would stay clear of this butchered car. That front end has been changed and modified. No hidden wiper arm door that the 1969 has along with the missing gills you noticed. The engine shows a HEI distributor instead of points and a tach drive. The radiator has an overflow tank from later year cars (matches front end style)

Best guess is this car was in an accident and they saved the front bumpers but used a 1974-77 front clip. If you can pick it up for $2,500.00 then it would be worth owning but buyer beware.

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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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Welcome!

Learn about Vettes BEFORE you purchase.

Seriously consider purchasing one listed on the forum.

That car is an overpriced rag.
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 06:36 AM
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It's really pricey to get a reasonable Vette to EU. The price almost double. OK, I guess I will need to look elsewhere . But, if it wasn't hit, would you buy it? I want to mainly drive it and I do not mind unoriginal parts...
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 06:46 AM
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Welcome. The car would be over priced in the United States. That said, you have to work with availability in Prague. The question you need to answer is whether you want this car and the changes made to it.

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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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It's really pricey to get a reasonable Vette to EU. The price almost double. OK, I guess I will need to look elsewhere . But, if it wasn't hit, would you buy it? I want to mainly drive it and I do not mind unoriginal parts...
I think you strongly need to consider the workmanship. It appears to me as if there are two hoses connected by a union for the radiator hose.

And the alternator arm is... interesting.

The engine bay is pretty messy, coupled with the Frankenstein nature of this corvette and lack of interior pictures, I do not see much incentive to visit this car in person.
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 06:56 AM
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I agree with everyone , first off it seems pretty pricey and with the modifications done which are visible , what has been done \ rigged up that you can't see?
I'd be careful of this one.
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 07:10 AM
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Thanks guys! See, how desperate we are here in Europe? Unfortunately, the price range of better looking cars is for example $30-35000. So I will at least have a look at it and if the car wasn't hit, i will try to shake off thousands of dolars, otherwise walk away.
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I don't know what you want and how much you're willing to spend, there are plenty of fine cars around in EU as well
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The car from your link seems like a money pit
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Being a rookie, I understand how much you could want that car, even with the high price in Europe.

For the price they are asking, they are selling it as though it is in perfect mechanical condition. You have to consider if there are mechanical problems, you could easily spend several thousand dollars in the next six months just to have a dependable car to drive. Are you willing to do that?

As for resale.....maybe only in Europe could you break-even or make a profit on that car.

Do you have other car choices that you can "check out"?

After saying all that, you know what is available and what the "going rate" is in your area.

If you truly want a Corvette/any Corvette and you are O.K with an unoriginal car, buy one and be happy. If it is a "daydream" that you are entertaining.....be careful!

Keep us updated in this thread.
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My initial interest was this:
http://www.mobile.de/cz/zna%C4%8Dka/...188091271.html

Still available and I saw it in person. No matching numbers, bad paint, bad interior, but looks original. The frame is really OK, but lots of work. For me, really bad combination, not original engine and colours but nothing else is new. It's closer to the project than to a drivable car. I am ready to get greasy, but my inital approach was to drive the car. And it costs $ 18500.

You can check out the actual offers here, so you have an idea, what I have to deal with...

http://www.mobile.de/cz/kategorie/os...01,frx:1970-12

Edit: if the car in US cost around $15000 and was in a similar or a better condition than the messed up yellow one and aomeone would be able to inspect it for me, yeah I would definitely be interested :-)

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For reference, recently sold.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3s-...350-350-a.html
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Originally Posted by Chuck72
Yeah, i checked it. This one I really missed Would have liked the colour and T-top
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As mentioned, the front clip has been replaced. But if you don't mind not being original, then I wouldn't make that a deal breaker.

I image that the reason for the change is because it was much easier to get a higher production front clip, than a much rarer chrome bumper clip. Whoever did the work would have had to do quite a bit of work to get the clip to work with the chrome bumper, so if that was done nicely, then it might indicate other work was done well.

If possible, I would have the car checked out by someone who knows what to look for, the main thing being rust.

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Originally Posted by Chuck72
The OP is in Prague, so I'm not sure that prices in the US where the supply is much greater is of much use.
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Originally Posted by Vogast
It's really pricey to get a reasonable Vette to EU. The price almost double. OK, I guess I will need to look elsewhere . But, if it wasn't hit, would you buy it? I want to mainly drive it and I do not mind unoriginal parts...
Just curious, how much does it cost to get a corvette over there? I think if you start off with an original daily driver, even if things need to be replaced at least you aren't redoing someone else's hack job. That's more frustrating and the costs are unknown.

Keep in mind you're probably looking at a car with any original rubber parts and seals questionable at best. But at least you have a known quantity. I see cars with 40k miles getting a premium but they also likely need a nearly full rebuild of suspension and a fair amount of work on the drivetrain. Just my .02 cents from someone who just went through his '69
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Just curious, how much does it cost to get a corvette over there? I think if you start off with an original daily driver, even if things need to be replaced at least you aren't redoing someone else's hack job. That's more frustrating and the costs are unknown.

Keep in mind you're probably looking at a car with any original rubber parts and seals questionable at best. But at least you have a known quantity. I see cars with 40k miles getting a premium but they also likely need a nearly full rebuild of suspension and a fair amount of work on the drivetrain. Just my .02 cents from someone who just went through his '69
Take a good looking 68-70 Vette for say $20000. When it gets to Europe, it turns into something like $34-35.000. What you have to consider is transfer, insurance, duty and VAT. And of course, you are running the risk of buying a piece of crap because, you are not normally able to see the car yourself before it gets to Europe. It is written in every manual to buying a Vette. Traveling to US would make sense with high valued cars.

Also regarding the status of the car, the guy says his uncle lives in US and has two body shops for Chevys. I think that's why the car is a puzzle and can be more easily sold in Europe. It would stand a little chance in America with the supply and the competition for this price tag.

Would you consider buying a Vette from forum mebers a rather safe way and affordable? In my opinion, sites like classiccars.com have Vettes really over priced.
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If you are willing to expand your year selection, you can but a decent C3 for around 5k. there is a very decent 79 L82 right about a mile from my office for asking price 5500.00

paint is good, needs valve cover gaskets and has a small transmission leak but runs real nice, is all original with 63K miles on it. Been garaged for about 20 years.
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Originally Posted by Vogast
Hi, newbie here, just signed I'm about to buy a '69 Vette, I'm pretty excited! Here it is http://sites.google.com/site/2wow2wow/Home/vette. Good condition and already in EU. But by looking at the pictures, you can see the louvre doesn't match for '69 neither the front grills. Should I be worried? Does it really pose a problem if I ever wanted to sell it and should I press the price down?

Thanks a bunch!
Seems to me way over priced. I would consider buying one in the US and have it shipped. You will have a larger choice of vehicles, it will be in better shape. I 'm not sure of shipping price but I'm sure it will be cheaper then buying that car. When I lived in Germany finding parts for us cars was a PITA. So its worth finding one in great shape.
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Old Feb 6, 2014 | 03:48 PM
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Seems to me way over priced. I would consider buying one in the US and have it shipped. You will have a larger choice of vehicles, it will be in better shape. I 'm not sure of shipping price but I'm sure it will be cheaper then buying that car. When I lived in Germany finding parts for us cars was a PITA. So its worth finding one in great shape.
If the car in US is around $11.000, it would get to Europe for the price of this car. Of course, I would be willing to pay more knowing that I do not have to fix what is bad about this Vette. The question is, can I get a '68-'71 Vette to Europe in at least this condition? These are the years I really like and do not want to give up on this. I do not mind having a non original engine, or Steroids, or Wilwood brakes. The problem with this Corvette for me is the fact, that it does not look original from the outside. The way it is shaping up, I guess I will take it as a longish term project - buying a car in US and finding a way of getting it to Europe... The dream will have to wait but is not over!

Side note: If you have any tips I would very much appreciate it. Moreover, I will keep watching forum for a new Vette anyway...
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