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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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Since my 74 454 calls for leaded or low lead fuel back in the day should I use any additive to go along with the ethanol 91 or higher octane I use? Thanks. Bill
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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No additives required. GM products from '71 onwards were built to run on unleaded fuel.

Note that the car was also built to run on regular octane (87) fuel no need for 91.
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The 91 octane fuels will be fine for your 74. I'd think...thinking of my situation..is that you should be concerned about the alcohol in today's fuels..about 10%. The alcohol absorbs water from the atmosphere, or condensation inside the fuel tank. Water laden fuel from alcohol will rot your pot metal Holley or Quadrajet carburetor and also the interior of the fuel lines and the interior of the fuel tank.

If you're driving the 74 a lot, water build up in the fuel is not a concern. If it's a hangar queen, I think there can be a problem.
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The 91 octane fuels will be fine for your 74. I'd think...thinking of my situation..is that you should be concerned about the alcohol in today's fuels..about 10%. The alcohol absorbs water from the atmosphere, or condensation inside the fuel tank. Water laden fuel from alcohol will rot your pot metal Holley or Quadrajet carburetor and also the interior of the fuel lines and the interior of the fuel tank.

If you're driving the 74 a lot, water build up in the fuel is not a concern. If it's a hangar queen, I think there can be a problem.
What's any of the sky-is-falling rhetoric got to do with the octane level?
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 11:21 PM
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Who said the sky was falling, and why not run a cheaper lower octane gas when a higher octane is not needed?
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
No additives required. GM products from '71 onwards were built to run on unleaded fuel.

Note that the car was also built to run on regular octane (87) fuel no need for 91.
What kind of additives are guys using? I run Chevron 94 (no ethanol) in my 69 427. I run 13 deg. initial, 35 with vacuum and 51 deg total and have not noticed any problems so far....
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
What's any of the sky-is-falling rhetoric got to do with the octane level?
The message here was that the absence of lead is usually not a problem with today's fuel, the presence of alcohol and water contamination is.

I've replaced the fuel tank, fuel lines, and carburetors on both my 68 and 70. There was significant corrosion. These cars had operated all their life with alcohol free gasoline, it's seems to a calm considered rational thought.....not a sky-is-falling emotion, that water in today's fuels will make things worse.
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The man (Andy Green) that installed my supercharger told me that his opinion was that Torco was the only effective octane booster he had encountered.
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Originally Posted by 68/70Vette
The message here was that the absence of lead is usually not a problem with today's fuel, the presence of alcohol and water contamination is.

I've replaced the fuel tank, fuel lines, and carburetors on both my 68 and 70. There was significant corrosion. These cars had operated all their life with alcohol free gasoline, it's seems to a calm considered rational thought.....not a sky-is-falling emotion, that water in today's fuels will make things worse.
Here's a peek inside my gas tank that's had nothing but E10 since the mid-90s.



I see no corrosion. Using your rational, it seems that pure gas causes problems.
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Originally Posted by CanadaGrant
What kind of additives are guys using? I run Chevron 94 (no ethanol) in my 69 427. I run 13 deg. initial, 35 with vacuum and 51 deg total and have not noticed any problems so far....
I just came back from my local Canajun Tire store. Had to see what new miracle lures and potions are on the market this year that will finally coax them giant-sized bass I see out on the lake onto my boat instead of just laughing at me.

For whatever reason, I had never noticed that the car additive section was directly opposite from the miracle lures. I started reading the packages and found that there's very little difference between bass lures and fuel additives in terms of promised results.

I came home with some Zmax. Watch out fishies- your days are numbered!
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Here's a peek inside my gas tank that's had nothing but E10 since the mid-90s.



I see no corrosion. Using your rational, it seems that pure gas causes problems.

Rookie questions for M.W. :

approx. how many miles a year do you drive your car?

do you try to buy the same brand of gasoline at each fill-up?
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Old Apr 19, 2014 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by doorgunner
approx. how many miles a year do you drive your car?

Not many. Maybe an average of a thousand? The gasoline in the pic is over a year old.

Originally Posted by doorgunner
do you try to buy the same brand of gasoline at each fill-up?
Brand name means nothing. I make no conscious effort to patronize one brand over another, other than Costco is the cheapest.

Flame suit on.
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Originally Posted by CanadaGrant
...What kind of additives are guys using?...
None. My two like 91 octane, but prices are rising. They run fine on 87 cheapo.

Last edited by Easy Mike; Apr 20, 2014 at 10:19 AM.
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My '81 fired right up yesterday with it's 6 month old gas in it. I put a couple ounces of GM top engine cleaner in the tank (which isn't necessary, I just have a ton of it in the garage so I figure I'd use some), took it for a ride to burn the rest of the old gas off, and filled it with the cheapest 87 octane I could find.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Here's a peek inside my gas tank that's had nothing but E10 since the mid-90s.

I see no corrosion. Using your rational, it seems that pure gas causes problems.
Using gasoline without alcohol, my 1968 and 1970 Corvette fuel tank and fuel lines and carburetors showed significant water corrosion. They never had alcohol added fuel in them. The 70 fuel tank was not leaking when I started to remove it, but just pushing it around to get it our, I ruptured the walls of the tank...they were less than paper thin in places due to corrosion.

Just fantastic to hear that your tank is in great condition. Somehow or another, that doesn't make my two fuel tanks corrosion free.
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