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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 10:09 PM
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aussiejohn and I were looking at my November '68 built C3 that I bought a few years ago from a gent in California, who claimed to be the second owner. Under that black paint that he applied in 1991 there appears to be Riverside Gold paint. He said that the original owner was a rocket propulsion physicist working for NASA on the Lunar Program.

He claimed that he bought it brand new and that it was a special low production car. It has 1970 side gills, wheel arch flares, 1969 small side indicator lights and a 1970 valance for the twin system exhaust.

It is a manual steer, air conditioned manual trans car with 350 hp on the console. There are hoses indicating that it had headlight wipers. The trim tab has code Z04 and D09.

What do you guys think I have?

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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 11:45 PM
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Since it has 1970 side gills, wheel arch flares, 1969 small side indicator lights and a 1970 valance for the twin system exhaust and since those did not exist when it was built in 68, I would guess that someone did some custom work at some point in time.

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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 01:24 AM
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Since it has 1970 side gills, wheel arch flares, 1969 small side indicator lights and a 1970 valance for the twin system exhaust and since those did not exist when it was built in 68, I would guess that someone did some custom work at some point in time.

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Hi Tom , a few here have looked at the car over the years and have the opinion that the flares and the fitment of the grilles appear to be factory , flares don't appear to have been fitted after as there are no obvious cuts or joints the bonding strips appear as factory would have done i am told . I'm happy with the way the car currently looks but hesitant to change.
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 03:12 AM
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It's a really nice looking car, but it's definitely not factory. The side gills hadn't been cast in 1968.

Also awesome to hear from another November '68 early'69 owner.
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bad Bird
It's a really nice looking car, but it's definitely not factory. The side gills hadn't been cast in 1968.

Also awesome to hear from another November '68 early'69 owner.
Old guy who owned from new always insisted it was a special product car , so i dont know what to do with it refit 68-69 style gills and leave the rest as is or ???
Car was originally Riverside Gold which can be found in small areas if you know where to look also a color i dont mind
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 05:58 AM
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These are the same guys that bet their complete home that there have been some special C3-Corvettes with the aluminium body.
I have experienced many guys with various cars just talking bullsh*t about history and mostly about "special things" of their cars. Mostly to feel better I guess.

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Your C3 ist nothing special, sorry for that. There were tousands built, even with this color. And the reworked body parts are reducing the value of the car a bit because it´s not original anymore. If he sold it to you for a higher price he did a good job in selling this car
The car could only be something special if a previous owner was a rock-star. There were tousands of people working for the NASA back then. Only the real astronauts C3s are valuable, but still not as much as you would expect.

So, sorry for you. For me your C3 is less worth than a normal not modified ´68.

My personal taste: leave the exhaust as it is, but think about getting the side louvers back. Or at least paint you gray grills black. It´s possible that you car had a crash and the complete front clips was replaced by a later model. I can´t recognize if it has the wider lower fenders like later cars had.

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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 07:37 AM
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What is the VIN? November 68 production would have been the 1969 model year.
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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If it's a 68 then it appears that the doors and tail light lens have been changed also.
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 12:06 PM
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Unfortunately I think you have a car that has been modified or pieced together.

Post a picture of the Trim Tag. Z04 may actually be ZQ4 for base trim (black vinyl). D09 could be a November 9th build date for 68 or 69. The Paint code should be three digits, Riverside Gold would be 980.


What is the VIN on the windshield pillar?


What is the VIN stamped on the rear frame? (photo courtesy of Alan 71)


What is the VIN stamped on the engine?

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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 02:34 PM
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Hi well no need to feel sorry for me and for what i have and no i didnt pay too much for the car .
Also if you look at the pics closely you will notice it has the correct size side markers front and rear it also does not show any sign signs of cutting and bonding of extra parts nor does it show and signs of being in a crash or having a front clip .Anew clip wouldnt have the latter features with 69-69 side markers , the vin indicates a Nov 68 build . So what ever you feelings are about my car Tuff
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 02:37 PM
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Hi thanks for the info , i wasnt aware of the vin # on the rear frame but will try and locate today . The trim tag is as you say , and the vin # indicates a Nov 68 build
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Yes Nov 68 build date
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 02:42 PM
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Its an early 69 car , no changes to doors or lights
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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If you will post the complete VIN, it could possibly answer some questions about the car. It's easy to find on the driver's windshield post.
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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Hi Mike the Vin # is as follows 194379s77277
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Originally Posted by hoso
Hi Mike the Vin # is as follows 194379s77277
You've got an incorrect number in there some where (77277). Should be in between these, 194379S100001 to 194379S138762.

Maybe 07277? (Nov. 68 build date)

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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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Mike yes sorry its as you say 7277
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Originally Posted by zuendler
These are the same guys that bet their complete home that there have been some special C3-Corvettes with the aluminium body.
I have experienced many guys with various cars just talking bullsh*t about history and mostly about "special things" of their cars. Mostly to feel better I guess.

Bottomline:
Your C3 ist nothing special, sorry for that. There were tousands built, even with this color. And the reworked body parts are reducing the value of the car a bit because it´s not original anymore. If he sold it to you for a higher price he did a good job in selling this car
The car could only be something special if a previous owner was a rock-star. There were tousands of people working for the NASA back then. Only the real astronauts C3s are valuable, but still not as much as you would expect.

So, sorry for you. For me your C3 is less worth than a normal not modified ´68.

My personal taste: leave the exhaust as it is, but think about getting the side louvers back. Or at least paint you gray grills black. It´s possible that you car had a crash and the complete front clips was replaced by a later model. I can´t recognize if it has the wider lower fenders like later cars had.
OMG you don't have a 100% original car? You should junk that thing, it will never be worth shiit!! Cut me a break! Sometimes you guys come off as a bunch of primadonna's.

Hoso, You have a beautiful car, enjoy the living daylights out of it.
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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I just maintain and drive and enjoy im not fussed if it is this or that , i have had too many various cars and never bothered with originality
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Thanks 76rat , i wouldnt have posted anything here due to some comments and views
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