misleading...false ads
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From: altered state
St. Jude Donor '05
They call abouta week or 2 later "Hullo you wanted to buy my cah"
HUH
"You called about my car"
Which car was this
"The chevy"
:sigh:....click
sound familiar?
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bought two cars off ebay. one from a private owner and the other from a supposedly reputable dealer.both were delivered. the first one I called ebay with his add and sent pictures of the car. they refunded my money and banned him from ebay as a seller. the second one the salesperson lied, lied lied. the ad didn't even match the vehicle. no more ebay. if I cant see it I don't buy it!!!
Melting Slicks
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From: Tolland CT
With all the talk of wanting to protect buyers from overpaying I haven't heard what this car should sell for. $100? $5000? $15K
If anyone cares to put a price out there, what is it based on?
If anyone cares to put a price out there, what is it based on?
Drifting
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From: Fredericksburg Virginia
The thing is...that's not an awful looking car. It certainly isn't a Top Flight candidate as it sits, but it's a rim replacement and a little detailing away from being an extremely nice vehicle.
Heck...if the underside is in any sort of a 'restored' (clean, solid, rust-free) state and decent components have been used on it along the way, it may even be worth decent money.
Perhaps the $30+ number is a smidge optimistic, but this does not appear to be a $10k or $12k car. On the surface at least.
I'm sure folks could go on-and-on about what's wrong. Did the fan have a clutch on it from the factory? Dunno. Are those plug wires out of the TI box right? Dunno. Are the fuel feeds to the carbs right? Dunno. In the end, it appears to be a clean and solid 1968 Corvette that has been comprehensively freshened up. The paint may have some issues with it, but who among us has paint that doesn't have issues with it? If accurately represented and if the rest of the car is as clean as what is pictured, it's still a fresh big block 4-speed convertible with what appears to be correct tri-power and a M22 transmission (assuming that statement is truthful). Numbers matching or not, this is a car that can be driven. I don't know that I could get to $30k, but it would make sense for this to be a $20k car.
In the end, my point is: No need to miss- or over-represent it. A reasonable PRESENTATION sets the car up for a purchasers reasonable EXPECTATION. If someone isn't instantly deflated the minute they see the thing, it would sell faster and easier.
Heck...if the underside is in any sort of a 'restored' (clean, solid, rust-free) state and decent components have been used on it along the way, it may even be worth decent money.
Perhaps the $30+ number is a smidge optimistic, but this does not appear to be a $10k or $12k car. On the surface at least.
I'm sure folks could go on-and-on about what's wrong. Did the fan have a clutch on it from the factory? Dunno. Are those plug wires out of the TI box right? Dunno. Are the fuel feeds to the carbs right? Dunno. In the end, it appears to be a clean and solid 1968 Corvette that has been comprehensively freshened up. The paint may have some issues with it, but who among us has paint that doesn't have issues with it? If accurately represented and if the rest of the car is as clean as what is pictured, it's still a fresh big block 4-speed convertible with what appears to be correct tri-power and a M22 transmission (assuming that statement is truthful). Numbers matching or not, this is a car that can be driven. I don't know that I could get to $30k, but it would make sense for this to be a $20k car.
In the end, my point is: No need to miss- or over-represent it. A reasonable PRESENTATION sets the car up for a purchasers reasonable EXPECTATION. If someone isn't instantly deflated the minute they see the thing, it would sell faster and easier.
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Drifting
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From: Sadieville Kentucky
Several years ago I traveled over to Stuttgart, AR to view a matching numbers '69 L71 roadster (per Hemmings ad) that was on consignment at a certain Corvette "dealer/specialist/restoration shop". It had essentially rotted to the ground in their salvage yard, with many parts either missing or laterally in bushel baskets. The out of state owner had never even seen his "investment". So, IMOE people do actually buy crap cars without knowing what they're getting themselves into.
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From: Las Vegas NV
The thing is...that's not an awful looking car. It certainly isn't a Top Flight candidate as it sits, but it's a rim replacement and a little detailing away from being an extremely nice vehicle.
Heck...if the underside is in any sort of a 'restored' (clean, solid, rust-free) state and decent components have been used on it along the way, it may even be worth decent money.
Perhaps the $30+ number is a smidge optimistic, but this does not appear to be a $10k or $12k car. On the surface at least.
I'm sure folks could go on-and-on about what's wrong. Did the fan have a clutch on it from the factory? Dunno. Are those plug wires out of the TI box right? Dunno. Are the fuel feeds to the carbs right? Dunno. In the end, it appears to be a clean and solid 1968 Corvette that has been comprehensively freshened up. The paint may have some issues with it, but who among us has paint that doesn't have issues with it? If accurately represented and if the rest of the car is as clean as what is pictured, it's still a fresh big block 4-speed convertible with what appears to be correct tri-power and a M22 transmission (assuming that statement is truthful). Numbers matching or not, this is a car that can be driven. I don't know that I could get to $30k, but it would make sense for this to be a $20k car.
In the end, my point is: No need to miss- or over-represent it. A reasonable PRESENTATION sets the car up for a purchasers reasonable EXPECTATION. If someone isn't instantly deflated the minute they see the thing, it would sell faster and easier.
Heck...if the underside is in any sort of a 'restored' (clean, solid, rust-free) state and decent components have been used on it along the way, it may even be worth decent money.
Perhaps the $30+ number is a smidge optimistic, but this does not appear to be a $10k or $12k car. On the surface at least.
I'm sure folks could go on-and-on about what's wrong. Did the fan have a clutch on it from the factory? Dunno. Are those plug wires out of the TI box right? Dunno. Are the fuel feeds to the carbs right? Dunno. In the end, it appears to be a clean and solid 1968 Corvette that has been comprehensively freshened up. The paint may have some issues with it, but who among us has paint that doesn't have issues with it? If accurately represented and if the rest of the car is as clean as what is pictured, it's still a fresh big block 4-speed convertible with what appears to be correct tri-power and a M22 transmission (assuming that statement is truthful). Numbers matching or not, this is a car that can be driven. I don't know that I could get to $30k, but it would make sense for this to be a $20k car.
In the end, my point is: No need to miss- or over-represent it. A reasonable PRESENTATION sets the car up for a purchasers reasonable EXPECTATION. If someone isn't instantly deflated the minute they see the thing, it would sell faster and easier.
Melting Slicks
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From: Tolland CT
You're on the right track here, he just advertised it as something it isn't. Still would be a fun car to drive around. I wasn't interested in it so I didn't drive it or get it off the ground to look at the mechanical parts but it does appear that he spent a lot of money on the work and he has a nice binder full of paperwork. I'll bet it drives great. At first glance its really sharp in person but once you start looking at it you start noticing all that will need attention pretty quick. There are holes in the deck lid where a luggage rack should be. He said he has the rack but the holes don't line up. The passenger side window/regulator isn't installed correctly so when its down and you close the door the whole unit swings around in the door. (I didn't put the windows up so I don't know what the glass looks like). Trim pieces especially around the top of the windshield where the top sits don't fit properly. The intake is a correct 68/69 tri-power unit but I doubt its an M-22 as there were only 80 - which is fine as there's nothing wrong with an M-21...Its just not a $30k + car IMO
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St. Jude Donor '05
Unless someones a real corvette nut they wont know what a true #s car is just uninformed ignorance. And unfortunately some do and will sell you a line a dream take your money with no guilt whatsoever
When I see ads written with all the "buy a dream be special" crap I stop reading. Why bs they are going to find out anyway do people think they can pull that and nothing will come of it?
When I see ads written with all the "buy a dream be special" crap I stop reading. Why bs they are going to find out anyway do people think they can pull that and nothing will come of it?
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From: Eustis ( Area 51 Bat Cave ) Fl
It's like knowing the difference between a hooker and a ***** = marketing and merchandising in the end you are going to get screwed it's just how the product is presented unfortunately a I think you got the latter .
At least you got to see a Corvette several years ago I wired $2K deposit to a seller of a 67 corvette even had the police go and look at it in a storage place inside ,police said it wasn't stolen and was registered to the person that the seller said it was . his father in law that had passed away ,flew 2k miles only to find out it was a total fraud and I was out couple grand .
Good thing is that there are a lot of nice cars out there just got to keep digging
Good luck
Wes
At least you got to see a Corvette several years ago I wired $2K deposit to a seller of a 67 corvette even had the police go and look at it in a storage place inside ,police said it wasn't stolen and was registered to the person that the seller said it was . his father in law that had passed away ,flew 2k miles only to find out it was a total fraud and I was out couple grand .
Good thing is that there are a lot of nice cars out there just got to keep digging
Good luck
Wes
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From: Sadieville Kentucky
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